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[The Green Knight (2021)]

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10. [WARNING for discussion of child abuse]

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11. [WARNING for mention of rape and genital mutilation]

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For someone who preaches about understanding and kindness, you are shit at empathy. When you miss out on eighteen years of your life because somebody is using and abusing you, and you don't know any better, YES IT IS THAT BAD.

Seriously. Cut the "it wasn't that bad" bullshit. It's offensive, it's insulting, it's dismissive, and it's why abused people stay where they are for way too long. They don't feel supported, and often feel like they are the problem in their own abusive situation. I really hope you do not say this to people, because if you do, you are contributing to the problem.

If this were real life, I'd be shocked if Rapunzel turned out half as sane or kind, with few lasting effects of the abuse. If things didn't seem so bad to you, it's because Disney loves sugarcoating even the worst shit and wrapping it up in a bow, accompanied by music.

If you are a troll, good job. You've successfully pissed me off and thoroughly disgusted me.

Some people will miss way more than 18 because of privileged mfs, though - some people are unfairly put in jail or killed, some people are actual slaves, some ... The world is full of shit people. And many shit people are hella privileged.

I'm not saying one abuse justifies another. All I am saying is that privileged mfs love guilt-tripping parents who can't raise their children in the best conditions, all the while being way worse than said parents - who are often trying their best - to random people on the street (or their own employees etc). So, such privileged mfs can eat their own shit. With due respect.

Yes, obviously this wasn't the case for this character - do I have to say it out loud like it isn't obvious? This character doesn't even exist, and couldn't possibly exist because there is no magical princess hair in real life.

This is what you all got from what I said and I don't get why: I'd never tell someone, oh no, please suffer forever in the hands of an abusive parent/partner (well duh?). But I am really candid. People sometimes act like shitty parenting is the worst disgrace that could ever happen in one's life. Sometimes it is, and sometimes (often) it isn't, because many other circumstances can fuck you up badly for much longer than 18 years. Distinguishing between well-intentioned parents who can't even take proper care of themselves and psychopaths and kidnappers is pretty important instead of throwing them all in the "abusive / narcisistic + poor" box (because many rich abusive parents aren't ever caught or called out - they're just doing what's needed for the family! aww.).

What I said was exactly the opposite, fuck it - I said they shouldn't feel that they're condemned by their upbringing. Because THEY AREN'T. And that's what shitty people want us to believe. "You had a weird parent 20 years ago? Damn, you're screwed forever, your upbringing wasn't as great as I consider mine to be therefore your worldview is invalid lol maybe your emotions are mistaken because you don't love your parent like I do, huh. Go to therapy". Obviously all I'm saying is that people should be more "yeah, okay, this parent failed in this and did well in that" instead of OH NO ABUSIVE PARENTS SUCK!!! (and a lot of people who get thrown in this box were genuinely trying their best and weren't helped).

But morally righteous fake woke internet discourse is founded by privileged mfs anyway, who am I to say shit lol? I'm saying this to whoever feels like thinking. Most people won't and I know it.

You implied that anyone who gets therapy isn't an adult or big enough to just move on, you dipshit. Say you're ableist without saying you're ableist.

We're not fake woke, you're just high off your own power over people's mental states. You want privilege? Look in the fucking mirror. You started saying Rapunzel didn't have it that bad despite being in a gilded cage which is still a fucking cage, you waste of air.

No, I just said people shouldn't feel obliged. Why? Because some people love guilt-tripping poor people who can't afford therapy into "getting therapy". They should only be obliged to be happy, safe, and make others happy and safe.

fuck off that's not all you said.

"sure she could be said to have a shitty life by some standards"

"Some people will miss way more than 18 because of privileged mfs, though - some people are unfairly put in jail or killed, some people are actual slaves, some ..."

"Damn I wish all my worries could be summed up in being gaslit by an otherwise caring mother (let's face it: she wasn't being held captive in a 2x2 basement), being bored because I can't go outside"

Yes, see my coment below instead of making me type it all again. She wasn't being spanked or anything like this. She was restrained, which isn't the same. And, again, one abuse doesn't justify the other, but I'd like to be candid about it. Some RL people are trying and others aren't. Again, I'm not really interesting in discussing Gothel as a character - as I pointed out she is just a Disney Villainish Character, and those characters are unidimensional.

But if we're talking real life based on the plot of the movie, some parents who restrict their children's activities, for instance, have good intentions (I'd say most of them, even, perhaps...) while others don't (and I've seen absurd things like raising your children to become sex workers). In other words, I think it's easy for people to assume the worst of type 1 parents and assume that they're the RL equivalent of Gothel because they don't even realize type 2 actually exists IRL.

And I really wish all my worries could be summed up in so little. As a Disney princess by the end of the movie her life had a quick happy ending.

Okay so physical abuse if what you care about and everyone else can Get Fucked.

Thanks for proving your'e a degenerate waste of space.

No, I'm saying psychological abuse is a vast world and some of the worst abusers are never called out on it, and some poor parent trying their best (and, therefore, not trying to be psychologically abusive - SOME, obviously.) is.

And before I forget to say it, the worse waste of air are people who can't take a fucking online debate without jumping to the worst conclusion. I don't care that much about fictional worlds, just the metaphors and semiotics behind them.

Yeah, the metaphors you get wrong because of the chip on your anti-therapy shoulder.

(And before anyone says anything, I am saying this PRECISELY because I work not as a therapist but in children welfare and I keep seeing professionals trashtalking parents who have issues with alcohol or are just too poor to take proper care of their children but love them, but ignoring cases where there's a suspicion of sexual abuse because they're too hard to investigate/deal with. I KNOW how easy it is to trashtalk "abusive" parents who try their best and free actual "human" trash :) )

Shut up, human trash. You an justify your shitty anti-therapy opinions all you want, but you've laid it out. No one believes your privileged ass.

*shrug* I said nobody would bother and I was right wasn't I

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