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⌈ Secret Post #5283 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I hate seeing Mom in British fandoms too (I also hate Mum in American fandoms).

It just seems inexcusably lazy on the authors' parts.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. This is an easy one to get right, because the characters have probably literally said mom or mum.

Also annoying: when a US actor or notable is interviewed in a UK article and they're quoted saying mum. They didn't say mum, they said mom, and I'm sure the readership will understand that the person is American and that mom means mum. It's like a misquote to me, like if a UK actor was interviewed in Rolling Stone and they literally wrote that he was taking a bawwwth.

[(Anonymous)]

It's going to ruin your whole day when you find out that there are whole regions of England that prefer 'mom' over 'mum' then, isn't it? Some regions even go with 'mam'.

I'd have to specifically remember to say 'mum', even in an England-based fic, and I've lived here for all of my 35 years. We say 'mom' here. Of all my friends only one of them says 'mum' and he's not from 'round here (he's originally from Australia).

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it would depend on where the characters are from specifically, though? If the characters say "mom," you'd use that?

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't "mom" specific to the West Midlands, though? Not "whole regions"?

[(Anonymous)]

Anon that the AYRT was RT (lol)

Yep it is, there's a few spots where it is used, but it's very far from common. More to the point, it would be a notable exception in the source material if a British character was from the Midlands and used it. That's the kind of thing you'd already know about going in, and it wouldn't just be a really lazy error on the part of an author.

Midlands anon

[(Anonymous)]

It is pretty much Midlands based, but the point is, if an author from the Midlands was writing a British character, they may or may not notice they were, uh, "Americanising" a British character.

It won't jar them hearing an English person using mom instead of mum.

And also to point out that mom = US and mum = UK isn't necessarily correct.

All Brits might not use the correct "mam" for a Liverpudlian character or (not British, but) a Dublin born character who might use the same, or 'mammy'.

I'm lucky, my fandom is America-based, so I don't get tripped up by it (although grown-ass men calling their father "daddy" is a bit weird), but the West Midlands and surrounding areas are pretty big.

Re: Midlands anon

[(Anonymous)]

I'm also from the Midlands, and I honestly didn't know until recently that Mom was a Midlands thing. I just assumed that Mom and Mum were interchangeable and a matter of preference.

Re: Midlands anon

[(Anonymous)]

Even then it's still not always standard - my scouse friend only ever refers to his mother as mum (not mam). Then again, he doesn't have a particularly strong accent either.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Why on Earth would it ruin my day?

It doesn't really matter what version anyone uses though, as the most relevant thing is what a CHARACTER uses. I can't think of a single Brit character that uses Mom in canon, and we're all making a stab at writing pre-existing characters.

That's why it's lazy. (Shrugs) A single find/replace in a word document is not much to do to switch Mom to Mum or Mum to Mom.