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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-07-08 05:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #5298 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5298 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I can enjoy some woobification and I'm completely fine with owning that, but there is definitely a point where it becomes way too much, or just a way for it to be done that makes me nope out immediately, and yeah, it has a lot to do with whether the character comes across like an adult or not.

Whump them, make them an angsty mess, make them flounder emotionally, I will eat it up like candy. But the way they behave outwardly has to be believable to me, and having them behave like a literal child (or melodramatic teenager) is not believable to me, even for the most emotionally stunted adult characters.

When it comes to adult fic writers who write adult characters behaving like children, I kind of assume it's one of those Id-y things where deep-down the author would love to be able to sob out all their insecurities and get tucked into bed and coddled and taken care of, but they can't, so they have a character do it for them. I assume both the people who really love this trope and the people who really hate it are comprised largely of people who never felt able to express themselves emotionally and be taken care of as children/teens. That said, I have no idea why some people fall in one direction while others fall in the other.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I assume both the people who really love this trope and the people who really hate it are comprised largely of people who never felt able to express themselves emotionally and be taken care of as children/teens

Oh my god it's shitty writing, not some sign that those of us that hate it have ~childhood trauma. Christ.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Um, ayrt didn't say anything about childhood trauma. A less than perfect childhood does not automatically equal childhood trauma calm down. Interesting that you jump immediately overt defensiveness though. God forbid we ever dare to theorize about why we feel what we feel. *eyeroll*

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

If you feel like you were never taken care of as a kid/teen, it's not unreasonable to suggest there was likely neglect, abuse or absence on the part of the parent, which I'm pretty sure qualifies as trauma.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
why on earth are you trying to pathologize why some people hate dogshit writing?

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
We all have reasons why we like and dislike the things we do. Calling the act of speculating about why we like and dislike what we do "pathologizing" is pretty OTT, IMO.

The secret is already speculating about why people who like this trope like it. I guess that's fine with you as long as nobody turns the lens around? As someone who very much dislikes this trope myself, I find that baffling.

If someone hates something trivial, IMO there is almost always a reason for it, beyond just "thing is qualitatively poor." We dislike things that we find bad; hate, though, is a lot of emotion to summon up for something completely impersonal, inconsequential, and easily avoided.

The good news, anon is that it is entirely your prerogative to disagree with me. In fact, you will find that everything I said I prefaced with "I think" or "I assume."

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yes we can all have reasons for disliking things. When it's plain bad writing though, it can be as simple as not liking badly written crap. No other reason needed. Fucks sake.

da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
nobody is saying there needs to be another reason, just that there might be. there's no need to get so worked up about it...unless ayrt hit a nerve lmao

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. I just assume you and OP are morons who have spent too much time on Tumblr.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
definitely hit a nerve lol

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
DA or you are just being super annoying and smug and pissing people off.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Has anyone ever told you that you take fanfiction way too seriously? Like who the fuck cares lmao it's free shit written by non-professionals for fun. You can like or dislike it for whatever reason. It can have many reasons for existing. Why are you so bitter over a hobby?

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
nice trolling

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's honestly pretty sad that you think "maybe don't care so much about fanworks that you get legitimately angry when they're not up to snuff" is a take that constitutes trolling.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

No, it's sad you believe that's the reason I accused you of trolling. If you're not going to give a serious debate, then you can keep your poorly thought out comments to yourself.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice trolling