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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-07-08 05:31 pm

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If OP really believes there are "so few pretty twinks in the world", I hope for their sake they never fall for a genuinely under-represented age/body type.

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but I can't help thinking how gross it would be if someone wrote this about female actors. ....lol?

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-08 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, you're only a twink when you fit these characteristics as a young 20 something?? There ain't no late 20/30 year old twinks LOL

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
OP needs a better understanding of twink. The only time McAvoy was a twink was playing Robbie Turner in Atonement.

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[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2021-07-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
People get old, deal with it.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I admit I've seen pictures of older actors and thought "but they were so pretty!" but I try to squash it because time comes for us all. But focusing on James McCavoy?! Especially in the pictures you chose, idk what you're thinking, he's still adorable.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
If you mean he's gotten a little less pretty (boyish, soft) and a little more rugged, seasoned, then, yeah. But he is 42, so. It happens.

Thomas Doherty, also Scottish, is exactly 16 years younger.

Also, Timothy Chalamet, Tom Holland, Asa Butterfield, and Froy Gutierrez who all remind me a bit of James McAvoy, though in different ways.

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Yeah but new ones are coming of age all the time. People are not a limited resource.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
...isn't that the whole point of twinks? That their time as a twink is limited? Then they grow up.

Though honestly I think Alan Cumming still has twink energy.

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if twinkish-looking famous guys are really that limited in number. I mean, I guess there's a lot fewer of them than there is of more stereotypically masculine men, so okay they are comparatively few in number. But I don't think they're all that rare, really.

However, other than that, yes, I feel this secret very, very much. Also, I think one aspect that's being overlooked ITT is that famous twinks (or twinkish-looking men) do not merely age out of their twinkishness. Many of them hulk out of it. They get cast in some action movie and a year later they look eight years older and twenty-five pounds of muscle heavier. Or they deliberately style themselves out of it by growing facial hair, getting the most rugged-looking haircut they can, and sometimes even getting subtle facial fillers to make their faces more typically masculine.

I think if all the twinkish-looking famous men merely aged out of their twinkishness, those of us who find pretty, twinkish men the most attractive would probably be less sad to see them go. The natural aging process is one thing. Going on steroids that help you put on twenty pounds of muscle and also subtly change the shape of your jaw bone is a totally different thing.

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
“So few” pretty twinks? Seems like any actor not ‘roided up for a Marvel movie fits that these days. I prefer the middle ground personally.

Of course, I would use neither “pretty twink” or “butch daddy” to describe JM so clearly OP and I see the world through different lenses.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm, loving those pictures you chose. McAvoy is just attractive at any age.

[personal profile] fscom 2021-07-08 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
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Ferris' parents know he's full of shit probably 20% of the time, when it's actually 80%.

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-08 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a point, but there are two things I want to point out about AUs.

First, there's the fact that in some (especially historical media) fandoms, a lot of AU writers do it because they aren't able or willing to learn the details and background of the original canon and so they aren't really up on who the characters really are. In which case, they are creating OCs with canon names slapped on them. There's a ton of this in Les Mis fandom, and it's gotten to the point where the completely original fan-created characterizations have overtaken the canon characterizations in some aspects.

Second, and somewhat related to the first point, an AU where the characters are genuinely themselves as they would be in different circumstances are rare as FUCK, because most writers just don't put in the work and analysis to genuinely stay in character when that character is shaped by somewhat different forces and circumstances. but holy shit can AU fics be great when they're done right. I hate AUs with a burning passion when the characterization isn't done well, but when I find one where that's done well I usually really like it. But there are so few of those out there (and I've looked) that I mostly just say I don't like AUs.

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There is a sort of a balance to that sort of thing.

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I love it too.

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(Anonymous) 2021-07-08 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I get you.

I understand it. I only hate it when grown men are written like teen girls. Yeah, I know this sounds reductive, but 99% of male lead characters don't talk about their feelings for ten pages.

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Oh, god! That's horrible, OP!

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What kind of changes to a character in fanfic are you ok with?

I don't mind when they're more badass or when their love interest is diferent than the canon one. I read a fic where Bertie Wooster was a veteran of WW1 and it was an interesting one.

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