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⌈ Secret Post #5323 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Pratchett is my favorite author of all time, but that doesn't mean he's above criticism. Do you have more info about the stereotype you're talking about? Due to my age and location, I'm not particularly familiar with it. I'd like to know more and see for myself if it really is "mean-spirited." Sometimes it's good to critically examine a work that you love.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but Magrat is another good example, so are the cliquish young witches who spell magic "magick" in the Tiffany Aching books. I feel like Pratchett skewers a lot of well-meaning without any practical experience characters in similar ways, ie Reg Shoe the revolutionary. But Anathema is actually pretty competent, and also I think the new-agey stuff --Atlantis, save the whales, save the rainforest, tibetan tunnel conspiracy theories--is more 70s-80s that carried forward, just like Madame Tracey seems very 50s/maybe some 60s.

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DA

I first read GO when it came out and I was about Anathema's age at the time (college student age), and I was a baby pagan working with my first coven, and I absolutely LOVED her. Because it was clear that Pterry was definitely familiar with the kind of young person I very much was, and it came off as affectionate, not mean-spirited at all. She was my favorite character on my first read - I didn't fall as hard for Crowley and Aziraphale until a little later.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, I was exactly the same type and I definitely felt it was affectionate. Also I went and got my copy of Good Omens signed by Pterry while dressed in my full home-made teenage goth gear, so I definitely didn't feel it was mean at all.

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ayrt

I didn't feel mocked by Anathema's character, I felt seen and understood. And yeah of course, laughed at. We laughed at ourselves all the time, and our laughter was important and powerful.

Doreen Valiente's Charge of the Goddess says, "Therefore, let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility, mirth and reverence within you” and we leaned hard into the MIRTH. Any living spiritual tradition needs to have room for laughter.

I am so jealous you got GO signed by Terry. I have a couple books signed by Gaiman, including GO, but I never got to meet Terry. Perhaps after Death has come for me, after I've done my time on the dark desert.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - It didn't feel mean to me back then. I can see how it would feel meaner now, not because of the original intent but because of how the rest of the world has changed. When entire political parties are cool with dragging some kid on twitter for talking about global climate change, even gentle teasing seems like punching down. Don't get me wrong - the world wasn't much kinder in 1990. But derision towards kids for wanting to make a positive change in the world was less mainstream.

[(Anonymous)]

Anathema is a skewering of a subculture that existed in the UK in the 90s. A mishmash of the New Age/Wiccan people and those who were into aliens etc. It's not mean spirited at all as a skewering, in fact it's fairly affectionate. I was one of those people as a teen. There was some interesting stuff, but a lot of it was really stupid fads.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't remember if this was in the book, but I liked that the show made her family obscenely rich because of *course* Agness Nutter would leave her descendants some financial tips where she could.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure there were prophecies about 'do not buy betamax' and investing in Apple in the book.

[(Anonymous)]

She mentioned they did make some money from her predictions but mostly it was hard to decipher a medieval woman's understanding of future stocks and they didn't get everything right.

[(Anonymous)]

I like that they changed her ethnicity and used that to bring a liiiittle more diversity in the adaptation. I don't like how her relationship with Newt was portrayed the whole way though, but oh well.

[(Anonymous)]

i love adria arjona, is the show worth watching for her?

[(Anonymous)]

It's a fun show and all the parts she's in are good (and she's good of course), but they saddle her with a dreadful wet fart of a boyfriend so...mixed, really.

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DA

I want to defend Newt! He's a pretty good guy, he means well, and it's actually his incompetence that saves the world. He's so bad at things he manages to shut down the global networks of nuclear war when Anathema was smart enough to ask him to fix them.

BUT his ability to fuck up computers without even being near them even though he loves them is a staple in urban fantasy.

He's so completely harmless. And also pretty cute.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved how they updated Newt's character to show how much more serious not being able to use a computer is these days versus in 1990 where it was an inconvenience at most.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't like her, not for the actress or even the changes, but because she seemed like Gaiman's 'type' and that made me roll my eyes so damn hard.