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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-08-06 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #5327 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5327 ⌋

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[Kid Cosmic]


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[Masters of the Universe: Revelation]


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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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(Colin from the American "What We Do in the Shadows")


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(Anonymous) 2021-08-07 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I sympthized with the rich family a lot more than I was supposed to. Everybody said "the rich are the real villains!!!" but... those were innocent people? A traumatized young child in need of real help, a teenage girl in the shadow of her brother's problems desperate for recognition and affection being groomed and manipulated by an older guy who graciously decides he'll wait before he's an appropriate age before he'll lock that down, a mother who is overwhelmed by her child's trauma and has slipped into paranoia trying to protect her family from further harm. And the father wasn't exactly monstrous either; he was a jerk in that one scene towards the end where he insisted his employee do an embarrassing job that's not his usual work because he's the boss. Yes, capitalism is evil, it's wrong that some people have so much and some have so little, but that rich family didn't deserve what happened to them and I feel worse for them than for the poor family.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-07 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
...honestly, do you think you're "not supposed" to feel anything positive for the rich family? Or see them as humans? Really? The film has shown you all those things, they were purposefully included in the script - we were meant to notice them. The only member of the family who is really depicted in a negative way is the father (and it clinches mostly by the end).

On-line discourse about the film is not the same as what "we ought to get from the film".
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-08-07 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think in general tragedies aren't supposed to make you think anyone deserved any of it, that's the tragedy. and the movie frankly points out that they are nice people; most of their responses to their servants manipulations aren't unreasonable. I think the movie makes the case that in capitalism everyone is a parasite.

but to be quite frank, you simply cannot divorce capitalism from their callous disregard for the lives of the people they employ. that is a cruelty that capitalism may engender, but it's still something that nice but unkind family is ultimately responsible for as individuals.

so to a certain extent your response to them is going be built upon what you truly believe of capitalism. if it's an evil, then the people who enforce the stratification it causes in service of it are committing evil and reciprocal evil is entirely foreseeable (and even deserved).

Frankly, most people are used to life within capitalism so they view moral actions in light of its existence. They don't really see capitalism as an evil act committed against people by actual other people, so they see violent reactions to other people as over-reactions instead of reciprocal actions.