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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-08-13 05:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5334 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5334 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-13 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I give some leeway on non-native speakers pronunciation (been there, done that) but when it's something very easily verifiable and easy to say, sorry they need to actually look it up.

I've had to skip podcast episodes because the podcaster wasn't pronouncing some easily verifiable names correctly. They were American pronouncing non-English names so I wasn't expecting perfection but some of them were just so wrong I couldn't listen to it anymore.

And I'm American and the names were in language I don't speak but they were very well-known names! I even looked it up later to make sure I wasn't Mandela Effecting myself and nope, easy to look up and pronounced how I'd heard it before.
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[personal profile] cuddyclothes 2021-08-15 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I recently listened to a really good audiobook of a biography of Cary Grant. The only thing that (really) marred it was that the narrator constantly mispronounced the names of the other actors, and even butchered some! Olivia de Havilland became Olivia de Halivand!

I can't believe the author signed off on this.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-08-13 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This ruined a couple really interesting historical list Youtube channels for me. It seemed like they were almost deliberately mispronouncing at times.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-13 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the opposite problem lmao, can't listen to native English speakers mention any city or name from my country because the pronunciation is dreadful without fail.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
understandable; I'm from the Midwest and I know many of our French-based placenames have been bastardized to fuck and I want to apologize to all French-speakers who hear the way we actually say Prairie du Chien.

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've definitely had this happen to me too.

It honestly makes me feel better that I'm not the only one who's been bugged into quitting something because of constant mispronunciations, even when it seems irrational.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds a lot closer to the Spanish pronunciation.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering if that was the case. The kind of thing you don't look up because you think you know it.

I read somewhere there's a Houston Street in NYC and it's not pronounced like the city in Texas. Another thing I might not look up because I think I already know.

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
The irony of an American complaining about other people mispronouncing anything...

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
As an American, I'm with you.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Plot twist: OP is European but knows American cities from movies and TV shows.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
double plot twist, have you ever watched people on a national network, e.g. the weather channel, try to pronounce American place-names they're not familiar with? it ranges from hilarious to disgusting.

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
MTE

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
I know right?

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
As an Aussie, this secret makes me laugh. Americans in particular are always mispronouncing our cities and towns on youtube. If anything, I find it cute.
(for example, americans tend to say "Mel-borne" we pronounce it "Mel-ben").

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, thanks anon. I always like to stress the "r" and make it sound like "Mel-burn" (furthering its bastardization? Lol sorry but I'd sound cheesy AF trying to say it like you)

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Never forget the time The Amazing Race came to Australia and they went to Moo-loo-LAH-bah.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I get where OP is coming from, but as an ESL this secret makes me feel really bad lol
we don't mispronounce things on purpose, and we're always open to being corrected as long as it's done respectfully. It's not very nice when people who can't even string a full sentence in your language jump all over you when making minor mistakes in theirs.

Usually what happens when we mispronounce given names or very specific words is that we genuinely don't know better, or just learn words by reading them and piece how they are pronounced from our previous knowledge, other words and so on. There's also the issue of absorbing words from people with different accents or from other regions. We can't look up words we don't know we are saying wrong, and english has the particularity of having flexible sounds while my mother tongue is entirely flat (and many others also).

Again, I get where OP is coming from but there's a lot more to these things than just "not looking them up".

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I keep coming across Youtubers who mispronounce a lot of words in general and don't have the excuse if a language/accent/nationality difference. The word "indicted" seems to give people trouble, for example.

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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-08-14 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
The voice over on a local bus pronounces "Aileen" wrong (there is an Aileen Street in the next town over from me).

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
That reminds me of this (American) podcast series where the narrators try very hard to correctly pronounce some of the names (like Latin American or Chinese) to be politically correct but couldn't give a rat's ass about other pronunciations (like German names) - they don't even try.

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
I get you. As much as I like the Binging with Babish series, I find his running gag of intentionally badly mispronouncing Worcestershire Sauce rather obnoxious instead of funny.

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel that way about videos when people mention Spokane which for some reason keeps coming up...? And I remember when at the Tony Awards "Secondhand in Spokane" was nominated for stuff and they kept fucking up the title haha, drove me wild. But I can't expect like people outside of Washington to really know how to pronounce that without looking it up. I just wish they'd look it up

(Anonymous) 2021-08-14 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone knows it's pronounced "TOLL-doo."