[ SECRET POST #5346 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5346 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. I know Sarah has had some bad experiences with proshippers, but all the label means to most people who use it is that you're against cyberbullying (over fandom preferences, specifically, but also in general). It's like dismissing feminism and everyone who calls themselves a feminist because there are some bad feminists, when feminism actually just means you want gender equality. I make this comparison because "proshipping" and "feminism" should be the default stance of everyone. They're specific facets of being a decent person, and their opposites can't be both-sides'ed with them.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

No, that side is just a fucking stupid and can't see it because they're so embroiled with fighting 'THE ENEMY' and seeing themselves as perpetual victims. No one on either side 'wins' in this, everyone is too over-invested and needs to get offline for a few hours at least.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I take it that you didn't watch the video? Sarah Z did address this very same comment about how it's all facets of a person who understands fiction's impact on society, both in terms of it not harming people (most fanfic), or sometimes harming people (The Turner Diaries).

Another part that you should take to mind from the video is how Sarah Z said that proshipper and anti is just modern day broadstrokes taken in order to write off a person entirely. We moved past many historical discriminations (my own words, not Sarah Z's), but the urge to broadstroke, stereotype, and assign a whole list of qualities (such as makes death threats, enjoys pedo shit, literally committing genocide, etc.) to people in fandom based the tiniest possible reasons hasn't gone away.

Lastly, I think that you disproved your own point about "can't both-sides", because you let the 'proshippers' who harassed Sarah Z off the hook by saying "It's like dismissing feminism and everyone who calls themselves a feminist because there are some bad feminists, when feminism actually just means you want gender equality" (essentially, a loud minority), while also saying that every single anti is bad because of a loud minority.