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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-08-27 04:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #5348 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5348 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Dhux's Scar]



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04. [SPOILERS for The Green Knight]




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06. [WARNING for incest/underage ship]

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
At least they both look like adults (they are both adults, right?). Try being a Professor Layton fan and seeing the top ship is Layton/Luke.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
They're definitely both adults (the characters and the actors). I think Obi-Wan was supposed to be around 25 in TPM and Qui-Gon's supposed to be 50-ish. If you dig around in The Lore, it gets weird because Obi-Wan was probably apprenticed to Qui-Gon when he was, like 9. But since that all happened off screen and none of it is real, it's easy enough to ignore unless you're looking for things to be offended by.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
easy enough to ignore unless you're looking for things to be offended by

So, for most of fandom, not easy to ignore at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Depending on whether the novels would still be considered canonical or not, he was apprenticed at 13 iirc.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think the novelizations of the movies are still canon, except maybe for the parts that are contradicted by newer canon. "Between the scenes" official tie-ins are dodgy because I don't think anyone involved in the films actually reads them except for maybe Mark Hamill.

Either way, if you're coming into it from the perspective of someone who only watches the movies, they're two hot adult men whose relationship hits a lot of kink buttons. And, if you care to do some geeky digging, hits a few of the more controversial kink buttons as well. Not my thing, but sometimes the Star Wars be like that.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, no I personally ship them though I get why someone might not. I was just adding useless (and probably retconned by now) EU knowledge re:age at being apprenticed.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
it's easy enough to ignore unless you're looking for things to be offended by

I ship it and read a lot of Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fic back in the day, and ime the age gap and the fact that Obi-Wan became an apprentice as a youth wasn't ignored by the fandom at all. Most fans didn't take offense to it, either.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I also read a lot of fic, but it must have been in different circles than you since very little of the smut fic ever focused on Qui-Gon guiding Obi-Wan through puberty until he was old enough to bang. Different strokes and all that.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Most of the fic I read didn't show Obi-Wan's teenage years (though some did), but it very much focused on Qui-Gon thinking that he was too old for Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan thinking that Qui-Gon considered him too young and immature, each of them thinking that the other had only paternal/filial or mentor/mentee feelings for him, the two of them negotiating a new relationship with each other as Obi-Wan got older, sometimes examinations of how the Jedi as a whole viewed master/apprentice relationships, etc.

Basically just really leaning into the emotional and sometimes the societal implications of the age gap and of the fact that Obi-Wan became Qui-Gon's apprentice at a fairly young age.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That would have been hilarious quite frankly.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You know. If it would even happen.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
They had a mentor/mentee relationship. There are certainly enough unhinged people in fandom now that it would happen.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
As a SW fan, there's been a little wank about it here and there, because oMg tEaCHeR AnD stUdENt pOwER ImbalAncE BAD!!1!!111, but this isn't a pairing I'm into so it's avoidable for me. I've seen wank regarding Obi-Wan/Anakin for the same reason (with age gap wank thrown in for good measure). Big fandom = lots of crackpot fans.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
The teacher/student power imbalance was a big NOPE for me, but it never would have occurred to me to to anything other than just be reeeally careful when I was searching for gen and be ready to hit the back button if necessary.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose the reaction might be different if it was new, but it is still around (including on tumblr) and I weirdly enough haven't seen that many negative reactions to it. Or to Obi-Wan/Anakin which is just as big a ship.

There is some discussion about who you can ship the clones with, considering their accelerated aging. And you know, clonecest. But even those conversations are pretty mild.

Thank you, OP. I never realized before how lovely this aspect of SW fandom is. Even if it is just my corner of the fandom, it's still nice.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was going to say, my corner of fandom is mostly focused on the Clone Wars era, so it’s fairly quiet. Or maybe I’ve just lucked out?

(Anonymous) 2021-08-27 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Making up a guy to get mad at, pt infinity

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, ye olde days of the Master/Apprentice Archive! I knew and loved it well.

I should pull out my old fics, dust 'em off, and orphan them on AO3 for old times' sake.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
do it!

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] chamonix 2021-08-28 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
This ship was my first introduction to slash. I was busy writing my worldbreaking Obi-Wan Mary Sues, and stumbled on Master/Apprentice by mistake. My 14-year-old eyes were opened! What a time to be alive.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-28 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm only on the star wars side of tumblr for the memes, otherwise yikes indeed.