[ SECRET POST #5349 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5349 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm ace and I'm a major shipper. I also read smut (I just don't want it to involve ME). I'm always confused when my fellow aces act like I don't exist.

[(Anonymous)]

Not having sex but getting off on smut is called celibacy not asexuality.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Celibacy implies you have sexual attraction to people that you aren't acting on i.e. you are attracted to people but are choosing to not have sex with them for whatever reason. Asexual people aren't attracted to other people at all. Being turned on by the idea of two characters having sex, or being able to vicariously relate to them, doesn't mean you want to have sex with them or are attracted to them yourself.

By your logic, you're going to claim lesbians who like BL or gay porn are secretly straight and into men. Which they're not. What they like to watch =/= what they'd want to do in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
You're an idiot who knows nothing about asexuality. But go on, explain to me how I'm supposed to feel about sex.

[(Anonymous)]

That is not what celibacy means.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah no. I have zero desire to have sex ever. I'm not attracted to people (or characters). I just like shipping fictional characters. I want them to have sex with each other but don't project myself into the situation at all. (Unlike for the example the OP of the first secret)

[(Anonymous)]

I am definitely not asexual but I don't project myself onto the characters either.

I usually find both members of a slash pair attractive, but I'm a straight woman without a penis, so I'm reading the story as a voyeur only. I do find some of these stories hot but I don't think about being "in" the story at all.

It's like watching a scary movie. I don't imagine I'm fighting zombies. I'm watching other people fight zombies. It might be scary, but I ain't there!

[(Anonymous)]

It might be hard for you to imagine, but not everybody gets turned on reading smut.

I don't. I never had - I read it because its interesting to me when there's a plot to go with the smut, or the smut is really kinky/weird which is entertaining to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Incorrect. Not being sexually attracted to people and not wanting to have sex, but getting off on smut, is called aegosexuality, actually. Or Autochorissexuality, if you wanna go old school with it.

Also, your definition of celibacy needs work.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, fellow ace who loves shipping!

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I read and enjoy it because characters can achieve levels of attraction and desire and fulfillment with each other that I am incapable of feeling in real life toward other people because I'm not attracted to people in that way.

Just leave me in peace to indulge in vicariously enjoying my ship's emotions and desire for each other that I have never once felt toward anyone IRL, and not for lack of trying. I'm no virgin. Sex is boring. People just ain't attractive to me. And I'm not attracted to either of the characters in the ships either. I wish I could find people attractive like everyone else, but I just can't. It's like asking me to be turned on at a fork.

If Fork has some desperate unrequited longing for Spoon though, gimme that shit. Now kiss

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a virgin but otherwise I could've written your comment. I enjoy smut fic the way I enjoy fantasy stories where people shoot fire from their hands and are regularly in mortal peril. Fun to read about, zero desire to experience firsthand.

[(Anonymous)]

Massively seconding this comment.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe its because I don't communicate much in fandom these days, but I have been absolutely unaware of the idea that asexuals aren't into shipping and/or read smut. Then again there's this stubborn belief that fanfiction = porn (which is funny to me, like the time I sent in a secret about writing Furby fanfiction and so many people assumed the worst as furby smut), and apparently every asexual ever is supposed to be disgusted by the mere mention of doing the do.

[(Anonymous)]

I may be totally off base, but I think this might all be connected to younger/newer fans' belief that shipping is a self-insert activity to some extent -- thus the persistent idea that asexuals can't dabble in erotic work, that "problematic" ships represent the morality of the shipper, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

that "problematic" ships represent the morality of the shipper, etc. - now that you mention it, that line of thinking makes sense of the certain loudest people in fandom who seem to believe 'you are what you read/write'.

[(Anonymous)]

Big same, friend. I'm asexual but not aromantic, and I enjoy all the fun relationship dynamics of shippy fanfic. The sex is ... eh, fine. Sometimes I enjoy it. More often, I skim it.

[(Anonymous)]

*raises hand* Another ace who is also a hardcore shipper and avid smut reader. We're actually really common in fandom.