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⌈ Secret Post #5356 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. And definitely after seeing In the Heights. I'm sure that was a really fun musical to see on stage, but as a movie? I wish they'd gone the Hamilton route and made a very good recording of the stage performance instead.

Same for Cats: I've never seen the movie and it looks like a disaster, but I have seen the actual play and a good recording and those were fun.

Some musicals have stories that can translate really well to another format, but most don't and that's ok. Just make the play more accessible.

This is true for other types of media too: not everything needs to be a book *and* a play *and* a movie/tv show *and* a graphic novel etc

[(Anonymous)]

By recording, do you mean a video of the musical on stage? I agree. I don't know what's going on if it's just audio.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, a video, sorry I wasn't clear! I only know a few musicals who have proper video recording and more musicals (and plays) should do it. I can't enjoy a soundtrack without having seen the show, which means I don't know nearly as many as I would like.

[(Anonymous)]

your last point is apt, and you know what gets me? how anyone in a Japanese fandom whose creators have gone the whole...it was a manga, then an anime, then a stage musical, etc, we always know that the further down the line you go, the worse it gets. When it's a manga first then an anime, or an anime then a manga, there's not usually much dilution, but then you get the light novel - anime - manga based on the anime not the novel - stage show - stage musical, you're prepared for other iterations to be absolute crap. And you're down for how hilariously bad it's going to be as it blatantly grabs for the cash of hardcore fans, and even the hardcore fans ponying up said cash are in on the joke.

But in other cultures? None of that is a joke, everything is supposed to be legit and if it sucks, it's somehow a shock. It's weird to see.

[morieris]

I want both; Give me a proper Bway recording of Into the Woods that doesn't sanitize it, and let me watch the Disney version when I want to.

[(Anonymous)]

You're in luck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqCsQCsinK4&t=5s

It's got fairly outdated camerawork because it was made in '89 with (most) of the original cast, but overall it's really really good. Sondheim is really great about letting his stuff get proshoots in general, actually.

[meadowphoenix]

This is probably very weird of me, but I think that stage to screen is one of those things that always creates a very different product. Like I think it's easier to recreate the feeling of a book when adapted to either a stage show or movie than it is to recreate the feeling of a stage show when adapted to a movie, and vice versa.

I think it's because book don't physically limit stage shows and movies the way stage shows are limiting for movies, but I have no real facts here, just opinions.

[sabotabby]

I think you're onto something. I watched some epic deconstruction of the Les Miz movie that described some of the technicalities of why, but basically there are few movie adaptations of musicals that I actually like. (My one exception is Cabaret, which works in both book, film, and most stage adaptations I've seen, but it's structured in such a way to be easily adaptable.)

[meadowphoenix]

Cabaret and Chicago are definitely properties that work for me in various media. But they're also an example of my weird distinction because Cabaret and Chicago the musicals feel like entirely different properties to me than Chicago and Cabaret the movies.

[sabotabby]

I think format-wise, they both lend themselves well to "this is the basic story, but make whatever changes need to happen so that it works in a different media." No one's trying to make things that work on stage work on screen.

[meadowphoenix]

yep the episodic-like nature is very malleable.

[(Anonymous)]

can't wait for Tom Hooper's gritty "Hamilton" adaption and i am not being sarcastic please make it happen, universe, i beg you i need this trainwreck

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like it's gotten even worse in recent years because it seems like every single movie adaptation of a musical has to shoot for the 'realistic' prestigious Oscar-bait type adaptation rather than just trying to create a good adaptation of a musical. And that's how we end up with Cats and people deciding that using 'digital fur technology' to create hideous mutant cat-humans was a better idea than costumes and makeup because apparently that would make the movie version of a musical that's literally just a bunch of cats singing about themselves too campy. Thank goodness for slime tutorials.

[tabaqui]

I wish there were lots more recordings of musicals and plays. I'm never going to get to see a professional rendition of 99% of these, and I hate that they're almost never recorded, like it's some big taboo or something. Makes me crazy.

[(Anonymous)]

This all the way!

[(Anonymous)]

It's the Broadway actor's union that stops them being taped legally. Hamilton found a way around it by paying an absolutely enormous amount of money I assume to them, but also they had to finance the entire filming themselves. Hamilton of course can afford it, plus they had Disney+ in the wings to make good on their investment, but other productions can't afford it.

Which really does suck, because it's proven that no one avoids stage plays just because they've scene a recording of it. They avoid the stage plays and buy or stream a bootleg recording because flying to New York and paying an obscene amount of money for tickets is prohibitively expensive for the average consumer. And then no one makes any money for their hard work (except occasionally the bootlegger, but there's a whole thing in that culture about how after a certain point you can't demand more than a couple of bucks after the recording has been out for a while, and mostly people trade bootlegs). It's stupidity of elitism at its finest.

[tabaqui]

That really is. Making a good recording and selling it like a regular movie would provide income for actors long after they'd stopped being in a show or maybe even working. How ridiculous.