[ SECRET POST #5356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5356 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much. Sexualities/identities aren't made up, but labels are. What we all fall under now could be called and considered something else in 10 years as social categories expand and contract, even if our sexualities/identities themselves don't change

[(Anonymous)]

I agree!

Related to this:

Yes, I want more fantasy/historical non-straight characters. No, I don't want them to use our modern words for their identities.
I've read a YA fantasy book (that I overall quite liked) set in a medieval fantasy world and suddenly one character proclaimed himself bisexual and another said she was asexual and it took me out of the story soooo hard. You can describe both those orientation quite easily in ways that make them clear without spelling them out like that imo.

[(Anonymous)]

I know some people feel that it’s “erasure” when sexualities aren’t specifically labeled... but damn, why would the labels be the same? Maybe I just want descriptions of behaviors!

[(Anonymous)]

I agree to this strongly, having recently read some stories from people who may have been autistic.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm old enough to see my preferred label go from slur to reclaimed to slur again! So yeah, keep current labels out of it, they'll change soon enough.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this really depends. In a lot of media, there are already other things that really really date the work. Things like how the work approaches

I agree that a description of something is a better approach for timelessness. "I don't feel attraction to anyone," may be better than "asexual," but it also has to do with the setting and what you're doing. If it's a modern setting, people use modern labels. If it's an older setting, you may want to use older labels.

But it doesn't take me completely out of a work for fantasies and sci fi. Sometimes the tendency to create in-world lingo or something of the sort is more distracting (or sometimes even offensive depending on what they use). And a just straight description can also be unrealistic and distracting. It really just depends on the framing, setting, and how the work goes.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. And taking it even further, even if they keep the words out of the text, I think writers should keep whatever labels they personally see the characters inside their own heads and off of their social media accounts. If your fantasy society doesn't have labels so that character wouldn't label herself a lesbian, but you see her as a lesbian and say so on Twitter, fandom won't ignore it and won't be merciful if Random Casual Fan who doesn't follow the writer/fandom says that she'd be kind of cute with Male Character.

[(Anonymous)]

This salty gay remembers how it was used to hide bisexuality, so no fucking thanks.

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[(Anonymous)]

I swear the one year I wasn't "super online" they started using this anti- and pro- shipper jargon. I still can't say I get it. The surface etymology doesn't even make sense because it's not really about shipping as a concept. Wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

Let's not mince words: that video and Sarah's handling of it was utter tosh. She reduced an environment rife with abuse and harassment (disproportionately more from the antis' side, I might add) to an ice-cold "both sides are bad" take for the sake of clickbait and outsiders rubbernecking fandom drama. And the fact she censored the antis' usernames in screenshots while conveniently forgetting to do the same for proshippers didn't escape me either. And to top it off, when people took issue with her making light of their experiences for clicks, she claimed she was being "harassed".

Sorry OP, but that's just what it was.

[(Anonymous)]

i wouldn't go that far, but i went into it firmly expecting to hate it since i was strongly supporting one side and was very pleasantly surprised how nuanced it was. some of it i still disagree with and found a bit stupid but overall, yeah.

i wonder if it reached anyone though, people can be deeply entrenched in their little online camps. there were those tweets calling her ableist for the tax paying joke...

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes to Chen/Bradford.

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[(Anonymous)]

Welcome newbie!

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Well honestly, people recognize care OP, they're not going to know or notice if it comes from spite.

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. And definitely after seeing In the Heights. I'm sure that was a really fun musical to see on stage, but as a movie? I wish they'd gone the Hamilton route and made a very good recording of the stage performance instead.

Same for Cats: I've never seen the movie and it looks like a disaster, but I have seen the actual play and a good recording and those were fun.

Some musicals have stories that can translate really well to another format, but most don't and that's ok. Just make the play more accessible.

This is true for other types of media too: not everything needs to be a book *and* a play *and* a movie/tv show *and* a graphic novel etc

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[(Anonymous)]

Wait a minute... more ants? Secretmaker, is that you or was this a coincidence?

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Tell us!

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