[ SECRET POST #782 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #782 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 165 secrets from Secret Submission Post #112.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

103. Most (not all) slash fans are young and conventionally unattractive (not that either of those things are bad), and they will eventually grow out of it.

Since the media is so male-dominated and even strong female characters often don't get the same quality plotlines as the male characters do, a lot of girls will pick up on that.

And that "I hate girls, they are such mean bitches!! I only like to hang out with guys!!! *participates in slash fandom*", bit...that's common with younger girls outside of fandom too. It's kind of pathetic and transparently desperate, but they'll grow out of that too. Hope this helps.

[goddessdster.livejournal.com]

Okay, your second paragraph is correct. The rest of what you say is utter shite.

[(Anonymous)]

Nn? No, I've known a lot of younger girls with that attitude in their teens, and they've all grown out of it. I don't think I've met a woman over 30 who was able to stick with it. Hope this helps.

[goddessdster.livejournal.com]

I don't need your help. You are generalizing. And I am through discussing it. Have fun with your life.

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

...and one day, the ugly duckling grew into a HET SHIPPER!

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I didn't say "ugly"...just that most slash fans don't fit a certain beauty standard and they're younger. Again, not a bad thing at all! Damn I knew that someone would be offended...

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

Metaphor is lost on you, as well as fact.

[clarify.livejournal.com]

Shit son, I wish I knew that my preferences dictated my appearance and age.

[(Anonymous)]

No, but appearance and age help to influence your experiences and therefore, your preferences. Country fans tend to be white, Sex and the City fans tend to be women, soap opera fans tend to be older...none of those are bad things and it's not a big deal.

[clarify.livejournal.com]

No, but appearance and age help to influence your experiences and therefore, your preferences.

So, what you're trying to say is if you're young and 'conventionally unattractive,' this will somehow lead you into - liking slash? I mean, why? Your pop psych is total bullshit, please cite your sources other than anecdata.

And yes, I'm sorry, generalizing is a 'big deal.'

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

I am a doofy-looking 16-year-old. I did not know that.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Right-o, let's see your study on the age range and relative conventional attractiveness of slash fans. I'm sure it will be a boon to science.

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

It would be useless! Young ugly girls can't understand science.

[clarify.livejournal.com]

Wow, this? Really fucking stupid. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Way to be a generalizing asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

There are always exceptions to the rule, sorry if I didn't make that clear. I've met older slash fans and more conventionally attractive slash fans and misogynists well into their 80s (though they weren't bashing Mary Sues, exactly...) Sorry if I offended you.

[clarify.livejournal.com]

The thing is? This tripe your spouting? "Most (not all) slash fans are young and conventionally unattractive (not that either of those things are bad), and they will eventually grow out of it." NOT THE RULE.

What are they going to grow out of? Being a slash fan or being ugly? Just - I can't even begin to see where you could have made such a preposterous leap of logic.

[(Anonymous)]

They grow out of being misogynist...and also possibly being slash fans.

If you want to think slash fans tend to be older and conventionally gorgeous, go ahead and think that if you want to...doesn't really match up with my experiences with them, but who cares.

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

...AND you're a mind reader! You are so awesome!

[clarify.livejournal.com]

gdi you don't get it. I don't have any ideas about what slash fans look like or how old they are. I don't think they're gorgeous or ugly or old or young or anything. My point is you're generalizing way too much.

[neonstilettos.livejournal.com]

And that "I hate girls, they are such mean bitches!! I only like to hang out with guys!!! *participates in slash fandom*", bit...that's common with younger girls outside of fandom too. It's kind of pathetic and transparently desperate, but they'll grow out of that too. Hope this helps.

This sounds right, but the first part of your comment was just a self-righteous, overly generalized failwhale.

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[fenm.livejournal.com]

103. Most (not all) slash fans are young and conventionally unattractive (not that either of those things are bad), and they will eventually grow out of it.

Ignorant poster has no clue what s/he's talking about.

Re: 103

[instrumentality.livejournal.com]

Word. Most of my slash-loving friends are total hotties.

[(Anonymous)]

People are leaping on you way too much. The first bit of what you said is true. Most slash fans are not CONVENTIONALLY attractive, that does not mean ugly. Chances are, they're not as into that kind of stuff.

Just go to any con. How many girls do you see there as being CONVENTIONALLY attractive? Not many, I'll say that. Now I'm not saying that conventional beauty = only way to be pretty. I'm not saying that at all. It's not over-generalization (especially since you said most, not all), it's actually being friggin observant and honest. You don't have to defend your fellow fandom members on everything.

You hit a nerve by posting that, but people always deny the truth of something if they deem it offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

IAWTC to a certain degree with the observant and honest part. However, slash fan does not equal con-going so that may not be the best example to prove your point. I am a closeted fan and have never been to a con in my life. I know a number of people who are the same. I'm also sure many cons include people other than slash fans, such as your average het/gen/femmeslash/everything-loving people or someone who's simply a fan of the series or, hell, any number of types of people.

I'm not saying you're entirely wrong because most of the world's population is not conventionally attractive in the first place, so logic would dictate that a large number of slash fans are not conventionally attractive, either, for that reason.

I don't think this leads to being, uh, whatever point the OP was trying to make though since that was a bit of a jump in logic.