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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-29 04:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #5381 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5381 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Story of Minglan]


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[Chris Wu, Jake Hsu | Andy Bian, Kenny Chen]


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[Hitman]


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[Howl's Moving Castle]


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[Labyrinth]











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(Anonymous) 2021-09-30 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK if I would agree with that. I find the characters in Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away to be pretty strong. Most of Porco Rosso and Kiki's too. Though in fairness, Ponyo, Castle in the Sky, and Howl's are pretty bland. Mixed bag I would say.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-30 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree with you. There are so many Ghibli films with strong characters and relationships! It’s just that with so many films made by the studio, as well as non-Ghibli films by Miyazaki and Takahata, there are bound to be a few weaker ones. That’s not even getting into Ocean Waves, and Goro Miyazaki’s less than impressive efforts. Earthsea deserves better, but Earwig and the Witch was based on a premise I didn’t like to begin with. It was my least favorite Diana Wynn Jones novel.

I know this is entirely subjective, and I promise my tone when talking about this is more pouty and lighthearted than legitimately angry. But I don’t like it when people boil all Ghibli films to aesthetic and pretty art, while generalizing the story and character writing of most of the films with the same brush of “the weak points”. I love the aesthetics and art, but that’s not all there is to the films by these phenomenal creators.

I like the movie adaptation of Howl’s better than the book, but the criticism of the movie adaptation’s characters is so common, and I don’t know if I completely disagree with it. Castle in the Sky is one of my favorites, but the protagonists are definitely the weakest aspect. And I don’t really like Ponyo.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-30 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT. Largely agreed.

I've seen most of the Ghibli canon, and it's frustrating when people generalize the films that way. There is a huge range in quality from pretty wretched character and story writing (e.g Earthsea and Pom Poko and many others) to some of the most complex and interesting character writing I've seen (Mononoke and Spirited Away and many others). YMMV on all of this of course. I think people tend to boil Ghibli down "aesthetics and art" because even the bad movies look nice (minus a few).