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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-09 04:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #5391 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5391 ⌋

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[House of Games]


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[World Trigger]


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[The Bug Butcher]


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[Great British Bake Off]


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[Father Paul from Midnight Mass]











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Writing Thread

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
For writing questions

Is this concept offensive?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
So I have this one sci-fi/futuristic fantasy setting concept I keep coming back to.

I have this idea of whole planets across the galaxies ruled by one particular countries.

But like the idea being that we discovered this one galaxy with like an insane amount of planets or something and all the countries of Earth started claiming planets.

I'm worried that this concept is offensive but it really appeals to me for some reason. I try to build the idea so that a wide variety of countries have planets of their own.

If I were to develop this idea into a thing I'd make it a sort of open world where people from certain countries not covered could write their own stories about them. Or like register the series with something like Kindle Worlds or just make it open to guest authors. I know that I would feel nervous writing about cultures and countries I didn't know much about.

Would there be something wrong with making a story like that?

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Re: Is this concept offensive?

[personal profile] ill_omened 2021-10-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Peter F Hamilton did this, or at least had this in the world building for one of his series and it got absolutely no blow back that I can recall. Own it fam, a few people with their heads up their arse might whinge but is what it is.

Re: Is this concept offensive?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
At the risk of sounding like an enabler, no? I don't think it'd be inherently racist, but your execution needs to be excellent. This idea sounds inherently cartoony to me, and maybe that's what you're going for. Sure! Just avoid stereotypes or presenting any single IRL country as being the worst. People who are smarter than me could probably pick at potential flaws better than me.
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Re: Is this concept offensive?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-10-10 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see how it could possibly be offensive, unless you took the most out-there stereotype of that particular country and made the WHOLE PLANET like that. I mean - do they want a planet of their own to become an insular and 'untainted by outsiders paradise'? (I can see a group like the Taliban doing this, but not the entire country of Afghanistan.)

Or do they simply want to stretch out, grow, explore, and nurture their culture and people while also engaging in the outside world?

I think you start with what countries you're going to write about, figure out why they are claiming a planet, *do the research*, and go from there.

Good luck! Sounds interesting!

Re: Is this concept offensive?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends, are these 'blank' planets (ie if Earth colonized Mars) or are these inhabited plants (a la Christopher Columbus). Because the second version could definitely be offensive to people who've already suffered under colonialism.

Re: Writing Thread

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to attach this to the post about country planets since it involves a mention of potential racism but figured I'd just post it in it's own post because it has nothing to do with the OP of that post. Old war story follows here:

I remember this one time a person who was a big time writer of offensive stereotypes about indigenous people keep presenting a story to me and my friend group, and trying to bait us into saying that she should only have only white characters in her story.

"It's a story set in an old European town. Where can I fit a POC character in there?"
"Well, you could make it happen if you want. What are they going to be like?"
"The only slot I have available is for the household servant of the rich family."

And like after a whole thirty minutes of why she said that the only POC character in the story should be a domestic servant, I just raised my hands, and encouraged them to write some of the story first and see how it goes. The story never got worked on of course.

Re: Writing Thread

(Anonymous) 2021-10-10 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Any tips on writing creole/patois speech without getting offensive or annoying? (aiming for bajan creole, fictional island, comedy)
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Re: Writing Thread

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-10-10 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Get the pattern down (word order and grammar are different) and maybe have the first couple things the person says in the actual patois (if you go to YouTube vids about this, you can see how things are spelled in captions that is actually how the people who speak that particular patois spell it).

Then just have them speaking mostly in regular English or whatever language you're writing in, with the grammar/word order as it should be in the patois, and occasional give them a word (exclamation, nickname, whathaveyou) in nothing but the patois. Or a whole sentence to someone *else* who speaks that, like they're deliberately saying it that way, really thick, so 'others' can't understand.

Just don't do every sentence, every word, every everything in some kind of phonetic 'accent'.