[ SECRET POST #5394 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5394 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Hello from Halo Head]


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[Naked Lunch]


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[The Musketeers, Richelieu]


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[Gangsta]


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[Babylon 5]


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[Clockwise from top left: Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Steven Universe, Undertale]











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Comments

At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

As the title says. There are so many shows and series out there that we love up to a certain point, but then for some reason they lose their edge. Maybe the decline is sudden or maybe it's gradual, maybe it's obvious or maybe it's subtle. Maybe other people don't agree that it lost it's edge, or maybe the verdict is almost unanimous.

Talk to me about the points in stories you've liked where you noticed it didn't seem as good anymore.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

When Bernadette got pregnant on The Big Bang Theory, I knew the show was gonna go downhill fast and it did.

I can’t pinpoint exactly when it happened, but I just don’t enjoy the Treehouse of Horror episodes and I used to look forward to those episodes every year. Even after I stopped watching the new episodes of The Simpsons, I’d still tune in for the Treehouse of Horror episodes, but I don’t anymore.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel the exact same about Treehouse of Horrors!

I think they make a game of cramming in references that's loosely set as a story that's not even horror comedy instead of writing something solid that has references you don't need to get to enjoy.

Like the story of Clown Without Pity versus In the Na'vi

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Sonic fans can be pretty contentious as to when the franchise truly lost its edge, but to me, Sonic Heroes was the point in the core series when the wheels started to fly off. (Although it was playable and enjoyable the first time around, the fact that it was the first Sonic Team game after NiGHTS Into Dreams that lacked a reference to it was a big red flag to me.) Shadow was a shocking swerve towards the grimdark, but I'm sure if its gameplay was tied to an original IP with its own characters, it'd be a cult classic like Billy Hatcher. I fell off the wagon completely after what I heard about Sonic 2006 and bouncing hard off Sonic and the Secret Rings.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

The part of the UK Being Human's season finale when it's revealed that werewolf character's love interest got scratched by him, meaning that she's infected with lycanthropy too, and that's the reason why the werewolf didn't attack her instead of true love. Sorry, maybe it's a cliche, but the Power of Love opportunity was there, and the show just didn't go for it, and decided to introduce a plot thread that instead was very lacklustre enough to instantly drop the show.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean UK Being Human (as much as I loved it and sat through the WHOLE thing) I felt like I liked it less after our favorite brooding vamp died/they killed the werewolf. Toby was such a good character (my favorite as the show continued). Frankly the whole "wolf shaped bullet" arc annoyed the shit out of me. I enjoyed what remained of the show, but it just wasn't the same.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I'm also mad that all I remember of Annie now was "LET GO OF MY BABY!"

They really kinda shafted everyone. A bit.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Oh my goodness, a fellow Being Human fan!!! Hello!!! Dude, I'm so happy to meet a fellow fan, I feel sometimes that I'm the only person who watched this show.

I admit I did call it quits midway through the first season and saw a teensy bit of the third season I think, but at what season did the plot points you mentioned happen?

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Fellow BH:UK fan YRT!

HIII!!!! Yeah, I feel similarly -- no one I know has seen this version (if they've even watched the US version).

I don't blame you for walking out around S1, but if you're ever in the mood, I highly recommend watching it again. So the wolf shaped bullet arc was S3 (I really fucking hated it, although I'll admit it's probably one of the few times I've cried over a character). I just felt like it was lazy (I won't include spoilers, but maybe I've already done that lol). Everything else happens during season 4, which I was not going to watch, but I stuck it out 'til the end for Michael Socha's goofy sweet self.

Would consider rewatching it ever?/ What drew you into the show (and why'd you leave)?

I'll shamelessly admit Aiden Turner was the reason I watched this show (thanks, LotR!). Came for the hot guy, stayed for supernatural hijinks. (And for all I came to watch the vampire, the werewolf turned out to be my favorite character. Got love for Annie though).

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[iff_and_xor]

Once Upon A Time started to feel like it was going wobbly around the time Ursula, Cruella, and Maleficent showed up as a threesome of baddies. But the real warning sign was the badly mis-handled Frozen plot.

(The three villains would have been fine individually, but welding them together was weird and they all felt like they were interpreted much more weirdly than prior characters.)

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Agree -- it just started feeling bloated too. Too many characters and plot points being thrown at you too.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[greghousesgf]

Gil showing up constantly in the Simpsons. Whiny desperation is not funny, guys.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Voltron really took a drop in the last season. It was getting pretty convoluted leading into season 7 but then it just dived.

Heroes. The first season was so good but then they didn't know how to move forward.

3%. Without the format of the test, they were just spinning their wheels.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm also feeling sad right now because I feel like 2x01 of Ted Lasso was subtly but pervasively different from the entirety of S1. S1 of Ted Lasso is an absolute gem. I couldn't love it more. It's borderline perfect, IMO. But then 2x01 just felt...off, somehow. It felt like the show was actively trying to be itself?? kind of? Also, it felt like the ethos underpinning the whole thing was kind of muddled and forced. IDK if the writers started second-guessing themselves, or if there was studio interference, or if a particular writer quite and was replace by someone else. I just know 2x01 didn't feel the same. It was 98% the same, but that other 2% made a big difference. Now I'm hesitant to watch anymore, because I kind of want to just remember S1 the way it was.

Personally I feel like B99 lost something when it switched networks after S5. The shift wasn't extremely obvious, but it really effected my enjoyment. There was just something missing that had been there before.

As soon as promo material started coming out about S3 of BBC Sherlock, I was pretty sure it was going to be awful. Then I saw Many Happy Returns and was like, yup, it's gonna be awful. And then it was completely awful. In hindsight, S1 and S2 weren't that great. The show was messy and inconsistent and self-satisfied, even in its prime. But up to the end of S2 it managed to skate along on its good qualities for me. As soon as I saw the first bits and pieces of S3, that's when I was very abruptly aware I didn't like the show at all anymore.

It was actually mid-S4 of Battlestar Galactica before I really had a moment of, okay, the show isn't the brilliant thing it once was. In hindsight, it started losing its edge earlier. I still love most of S3 though.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good? [VH]

[(Anonymous)]

SyFy's Van Helsing --- It always seemed to get messy mid to late season plotwise only to pull it together at the end and keep you hooked.

I stopped watching during the first few episodes of season 4 but I would say it went down hill after the Season 2 finale -- SPOILERS >>> When Vanessa's whole motivation is to find her daughter Dylan and she overcomes everything thrown at her to be reunited.... only to literally a few seconds later kill the daughter off in a tragic accident kind of way and that was the worst writing ever (especially when Vanessa has some special healing blood as a whole thing ((that her daughter should have inherited btw)).

I was willing to let it go since with this show there is always another twist being set up. In hindsight it was just a sign of how jumbled their own lore and plot points could get. It was especially obvious when they tried to do the same emotional gut punch during the finale of Season 3 (except this time it was Vanessa murdering her only remaining family member (that she had recently discovered) and it wasn't even for a well reasoned action).

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

squid game lost me at episode 4. it was gradual though, because i already suspected it was going to be like that...
i don't want to spoil since it's so fresh but in essence, it proved (to me) that the show had a very narrow focus on which people matter, which i find an annoying thing to do in a show that wants to portray the humanity in desperation. like you can't scoff at how poor people are nothing but game pieces to the rich and then not bother humanizing your npcs.
which is bizarre since battle royale is supposed to be the inspiration for this and battle royale gives every single death a name and at least some little information on who they were. it makes me wonder if the actual inspiration for the show was the hunger games, since that one is also dogshit at humanizing the kids that die and most of the time doesn't bother giving them a name

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm fairly sure the inspiration was Kaiji, and there were some nameless deaths in that one.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

sucks he should have read battle royale instead

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

He read both.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

When they introduced God/Angels into SPN. I was happy for those who liked Castiel, but for me it killed the show.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm an atheist who actively dislikes organized religion, but SPN's blatant mining of Christianity for raw materials it could then MacGyver to suit the needs of the plot made me not really mind the religious inspiration much. It all felt so disconnected from real world Christianity (or any other religion for that matter). If anything I feel like Christians have a lot more reason to hate the show than atheists do. But that's just me.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I could be wrong, but it’s possible AYRT’s problem wasn’t from an atheist/religion standpoint, they just didn’t like the direction the show took with the Gods and Angels.

Again, I can be totally wrong. And also projecting a bit, because I didn’t like how the whole formula of the show that I was enjoying changed completely with their inclusion. I agree with AYRT that I’m glad people liked Castiel, and the storylines that came after his introduction. But it spelled the end of the show as it was before. Which is absolutely fine, but not what I personally wanted, so I didn’t make it much further before losing interest.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, okay, yeah, you're probably right about this. As a casual viewer, I think S3&4 was my favorite period of the show, and I definitely loved what Cas brought to it, but I can totally respect other people feeling differently.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

Anon the AYRT was replying to

You're spot on. It wasn't a Christian/Atheist objection. It was the end of the show that I enjoyed and I hated the new direction and formula.

Re: At What Point In A Show/Series You Liked Did You First Feel Like It'd Gotten Less Good?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm trying to remember when I feel out of love with GOT. It was definitely by the Sandsnake/Jaime in Dorn plot. But looking back I could probably pin it to the Arya and Tywin's conversations. They were two characters I loved talking to each other when they've never met in the books and it should have meant something, it should have changed the plot in some way but it didn't. Nothing really mattered in that show. No matter what they changed they'd stick to the bones of GRRM's story and it led to a wildly mutated beast.