[ SECRET POST #5395 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5395 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[rivia]

there's a huge difference between someone helping someone else manage their finances and what was happening to britney. it's possible (i've not kept up with the current trend of media exploiting the exploitation of britney) the conservatorship was started with good intentions but they are clearly extremely difficult to get out of, and there needs to be far better oversight keeping those in the guardian role from overstepping.

and frankly if she goes a bit hogwild with her freedom for a bit i can't blame her, she was posting nudes on insta as a way to prove no one but her is managing it anymore, and good for her, tbh

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I wish the best for Britney, I hope she can be both healthy and happy.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, she was essentially a captive to her father's whims for a decade plus, if she's going a little wilder right now that doesn't mean she's out of control in some way.

[(Anonymous)]

Please point to a single bad decision she's made that it so drastically out there and worse than any other celeb/wealthy young person going through a tough time that it would warrant her rights as an autonomous adult being restricted.

If she's not a great money manager, she can hire a financial advisor. If she has a mental health difficulty, she can see a therapist. Celebrities have teams to help them manage their lives and wealth, and SHE should be allowed to do this as SHE sees fit, as SHE is the one who earned the money to begin with.

Nicholas Cage is currently broke and has to act in any crappy movie offered to him to keep afloat, yet no one talks about getting a court appointed guardian for him. Shia le Beouf and Joaquin Phoenix behave strangely, but no one tries to lock them up and take over their lives. Johnny Depp has bought all sorts of expensive nonsense, lost $650 million dollars and his personal life is a fucking mess, but no conservatorship for him. Why is Britney so different?

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[(Anonymous)]

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[luxshine]

I was coming just to say that if "Batshit economic choices" were the bar for "getting someone in an abusive conservatorship where they have to ask permission to buy a coffee cup", Nicholas Cage would be in one a long, long time ago.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as we know, Nicolas Cage doesn't have any mental health problems, though he may be a drunk.

[(Anonymous)]

The bottom line is that Britney Spears’ right to autonomy is not and should never have been dependent on whether she’s able to manage her own life well. She is a fucking adult; she has the right to make bad decisions. She has the right to squander her money, tank her career, act weird in front of the paparazzi, ugly cry in public, stumble out of bars wasted, shave her head for emotional reasons, and so on and so forth. I’m not saying she’s going to do all those things, but if she did, nobody should have the right to stop her.

I do think it’s tragic that, because of everything she’s been through and everything that’s been done to her since she was sixteen years old, she most likely will be a mess now that she has her freedom. But that’s ultimately irrelevant to the issue of her right to autonomy.

That said, I am very, very in favor of support being readily available to Britney. Whatever kind of help or assistance she needs, she should be able to ask for it and receive it without fanfare. In a kinder world there would be a social program offered to her as soon as the conservatorship was lifted that would help her set up a support network of discreet, competent professionals, so that it would be there for her, ready and waiting from the moment the conservatorship was lifted.

Sadly, I suspect that’s a rather more idealistic vision that the reality that’s actually facing her, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly.

She was stopped from doing anything because shaving her head and being a bit erratic cost her family money and they wanted to keep the gravy train rolling rather than solely doing this to help her.

I hope the guy she's engaged to is committed to doing the best for her and isn't a shitty gold digger, because this woman doesn't deserve to end up on skid row. But a normal accountant/lawyer with a budget oversight role would ensure that doesn't happen anyway.

[hey_hey_hey]

The #SaveBritney nuts will be the first people asking why didn't anyone do something if she wastes all her money or someone takes advantage of her again.

[(Anonymous)]

This is not the gotcha you think it is.

[(Anonymous)]

Unlikely

[luxshine]

Most of the #SaveBritney fans have stated that they want Britney to be able to do whatever she wants with her money and life. She wants to stop performing? She is free to do so. Does she want to throw all her money into the Ocean? Weird choice, but not weirder than buying a dinosaur.

The point is she is an adult, and she has the right to do whatever the hell she wants with her life, including trusting a conman.

[tabaqui]

Yeah, no. She's an adult who has worked her ass off. She needs to be able to be in control of every aspect of her life. And as far as you (and we) know, her mental health issues are poorly managed BECAUSE of the people controlling her life.

[(Anonymous)]

this take is so insane to me.

you think someone potentially making shit decisions with their finances is a reason to take away their autonomy? that is what you're advocating for here? mentally ill people should not have control over their finances if their illness might lead them to making bad decisions? what is wrong with you???

guardianship is for people with dementia who can't remember their own fucking names not for people with a ~pattern of dysfunction~, fuck off. she could build a statue of herself out of gold plated toilets and that still wouldn't be a reason, it's her own money she can throw it away if she wants to

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely this!

[meadowphoenix]

What you should be asking yourself is why it's usually so difficult for people to be put under conservatorships except for, historically, rich independent women. That suggests something about the purpose of conservatorships that makes "someone else should control her money and/or person" a very incredibly suspect purpose.

[(Anonymous)]

That’s an excellent point!

[(Anonymous)]

Somehow no one is trying to appoint a guardian for, for example, Johnny Depp and his idiotic spending habits (the other issues aside).

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like she now has to do everything for herself and make every decision by herself with no support or advice going forward. She can hire an accountant, financial advisor, lawyer, personal assistant, therapist, doctor, life coach, personal trainer, housekeeper, gardener, etc. (She probably already has most of those things, and now she gets to make sure those people are of her own choosing.) She can lean on her fiance and friends and any family she trusts. Most people do not live in a vacuum and will enlist other people to do various things for them when they do not feel capable of doing it themselves and will seek advice, whether it's from a professional or a friend/relative.