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(Anonymous) 2021-11-08 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)Pretty sure the only reason I love him though is not because I think he’s genuinely funny, it’s just that “person with class clown personality who’s treated like crap by the rest of the cast, but kind of brings it on themselves” is one of my many very specific Types.
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(Anonymous) 2021-11-09 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)I also just cringe when someone says they’re a snarky and sarcastic person because I feel like that’s not something you say about yourself. It’s like saying you’re a good and nice person, or saying you’re talented or clever. There’s some things that come off as arrogant when you freely describe yourself in this way, instead of it being something others say about you. It’s different to say you feel like you have these traits, or hope you do. That’s completely understandable. And in that way, every anon who’s described themselves as like Chandler are fine, because they’re just being self-aware of some of their personality traits, instead of borderline bragging about how smart and snarky they are like the annoying people I used to know. One of those people openly compared themselves to BBC’s Sherlock Holmes and Bernard Black from Black Books, for a clear example of what I mean. Comparing yourself to Chandler is much better by comparison.
Sorry for the long comment! I know I probably didn’t explain myself super well, and all my explanations for what I personally mean are probably too anecdotal to be relevant lol.
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(Anonymous) 2021-11-09 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)I guess I feel like Chandler specifically manages to tread that line where his comments don't feel mean and superior and "above it all" to me, they just feel like his way of engaging with situations. If anything I feel like the character is fairly self-deprecating, and is pretty open and self-aware about the fact that he is neurotic and insecure, so to me his sarcasm and snark comes off as toothless 98% of the time because it doesn't seem like it's coming from a place of him thinking he's better than other people, or stepping on people to make himself taller. If anything, I guess within the context of the Friends group, his snarkiness actually reads as a kind of indirect affection to me most of the time (though I guess if we saw him interact with strangers more often then his snarkiness would bother me more, because I do think his remarks would probably seem insensitive when levelled at people he had no intimacy with).
But I see what you mean about how this sort of snarky wit tends to manifest IRL. In fiction there are script writers to make sure the jokes are just the right kind of snarky to not feel like actual barbs, and as a viewer I subconsciously pick up on the fact that care was taken to make the character's comments stingless and I attribute that effort to the character -- that they take care to modulate their snark so it's only as harsh as the people around them are okay with. Whereas in reality when people are snarky it's a lot more likely to feel like their snark is barbed and insensitive, and what's more, in reality that is probably at least partially their intent.
Also, yikes at people comparing themselves to BBC Sherlock in real life. I would definitely consider that a friendship red flag.