[ SECRET POST #5431 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5431 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Most people outside the Christian evangelical circles still think loli is gross and wouldn't want a lolicon as a kindergarten teacher for their child. And most people can tell the difference between that kind of fiction, and someone doing sex work in the past, or even writing (safe, sane and consensual) BDSM.

> But if someone finds out and connects the two, it should not be as big a deal as it often is.

Idk, I think it can still be if you find out that your kid's teacher has a pixiv account, where he posts realistic 3d porn of children your kid's age. Or engages in erotic fandom roleplay with kids your child's age. Or made a smutty art of a recently-deceased streamer getting raped by the grim reaper and posted it in a thread made to commemorate his death. Or repeatedly posted art of some twitter artist's OC having sex with their parent and tagging the artist on it. All of those are real situations I've encountered in my fandoms, and that's just within the most recent year. Sometimes "it's just fiction!" is not enough.

[(Anonymous)]

Why are you so obsessed with smut involving children? The only one who keeps constantly bringing it up is you. Why are you spending so much time in kids' fandoms anyway?

And yes, people have indeed lost their jobs over sexual material involving consenting adults. Happens all too often.

And most people can tell the difference between that kind of fiction, and someone doing sex work in the past, or even writing (safe, sane and consensual) BDSM.

I really think you are vastly underestimating the amount of puritanism and sex-phobia in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe because this is the example that has already been brought up earlier in this thread? And is - in my experience - pretty much the content of 99% of call-out posts I've seen across many different fandoms. I made NSFW fanworks, as did many of my friends and artists I follow. Nobody cares or cancels us for it.

> I really think you are vastly underestimating the amount of puritanism and sex-phobia in the world.

Then show me some examples. Major examples, not a single confused twitter post with 3 likes.

[(Anonymous)]

You're still the one who's apparently using it as a baseline

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus christ, I've spent 20 years in fandom, including places like 4chan and Reddit as a young'un, in the good old days of Rule 34, and haven't seen things that appalling (unless I went deliberately looking, I won't lie). Where the FUCK are you hanging out that this is common?

[(Anonymous)]

Most of those examples were from RPF fandoms centered on youtube and twitch streamers. And I didn't even get to the part where people are sending the streamers donations asking their opinion on their NSFW fanworks about them. It got so bad, that some streamers started auto-banning anyone who brings up their shipname in chat. Back in my days people were mostly fantasizing about boy bands and Hollywood stars, now every kid on twitch averaging 100 viewers has a shipfic made of them.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, currently I'm in those fandoms too--still don't see that shit as often as you claim.

[(Anonymous)]

Clearly you follow better streamers, or the mods are just doing a good job cleaning up before you notice this.

[(Anonymous)]

What's the appeal of watching teenagers stream themselves playing video games anyway? There are some things that are less interesting than that but I can't think of many.

I mean, of course I know that it's humongous now. It baffles me, but whatever.

Find a better fandom and you won't see so much of this crap.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking this

[(Anonymous)]

One word: viewer engagement. Successful streamers rarely actually play games, they mostly do chatting /reaction content, usually to videos, memes, and topics that the viewers pick for them. Even among the gamers, the most powerful ones are those who play slow, boring games that allow them to spend the entire stream just talking and interacting with the chat.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Haha, sorry for the two words, I originally wrote "interactability" but then went back and changed it. It's getting late and I'm sleepy, so that's the end of this discussion for me.

[(Anonymous)]

So basically it encourages parasocial relationships with teenagers. Not fictional characters, not actors playing a role, but real actual teenage kids whose faces are on the screen that you can interact with without much filter...

And you don't understand why the very nature of that attracts waayyyyy more creeps than most other types of fandoms do? It's not that people don't believe you when you talk about the awful things you've seen. It's that it's such a bizarre outlier in fandom at large. Most people here are talking about mildly controversial fic, and you come in here like WHARRGBLARRGH FAKE VIDEO OF A REAL LIFE CHILD'S CORPSE BEING RAPED and everyone is like, what the fuck? And kind of worrying about you.

[(Anonymous)]

+1