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It's fine to be attracted only to that ideal of youth if you're into that, but that stage is very short-lived. Most people in countries with even semi-decent health care will spend more of their lives over 30 than under it.

I think the fruit only begins to spoil around 60-65. Under 30, it's way too green, not even near ripe.

> not even near ripe.

That might be your personal impression, but it's not biologically true. Human beings reach full physical and mental maturity at the age of 25 at the latest. This is also the age where pregnancy carries the least risks, and sperm quality is at its highest point. At the age of 32 fertility drops by 50%, and by the age of 35 it drops by 80%. Most sperm banks don't even accept the sperm of men over the age of 35 because of the lower sperm quality. I'm glad your preferences match your age as you grow older, but personal preferences and the biological reality of aging and its effects on human reproduction are an undeniable reality, and it's not at all strange or shameful, or borderline immoral for people to feel attracted to humans at their peak reproductive age.

This is weird cishet shit. I'm not straight and I've never wanted kids, so attraction has absolutely zero to do with sperm and egg omelets.

Peak fertility has nothing to do with sexual attraction unless you're a weird MRA who's devoted to the idea that men should be allowed to creep on early-20s women for the whole of their lives no matter how old they get.

and.... you are kind of sounding like that. I don't know your gender or orientation, but your obsession with fertility really suggests that it's all about older penises being entitled to younger vaginas. If that's not what you're saying, please make that clear.

I am literally a woman, you dumb fuck. I'm using fertility as an example, because its intrinsically linked to sexuality, it's a biological fact. I'm sorry that biology won't validate your feels anon, but you'll just have to deal with it.

I don't know how to tell you: fertility has NOTHING to do with sexual attraction

It does have a lot to do with sexual maturity though. And in this subthread there are people referring to fully grown, fully mature 29 year olds as "unripe" and even "barely legal", which is laughable.

I think you haven't read the threads very well. No one is saying that 29-year-olds are "barely legal."

Some people ARE saying they're "unripe" though. Because there's a lot of older women positivity in this thread, and I'm here for it. Real true beauty is mature. 29 is only the beginning. They will only get more lovely from then on. There are so many famous women who were pretty in their 20s but DROP DEAD GORGEOUS in their 40s.

Unripe is not the same as attractive. Unripe implies physical and sexual underdevelopment, which is definitely not the case for 29 year olds biologically.

That's nice for you, but sexual maturity has a lot to do with sexual reproduction. Pretending like people in their peak reproductive age are somehow minors who are too young to be having sex or be sen in a sexual light is delusional to a laughable degree.

I think you're arguing with the wrong person. I'm one of those people who finds anyone under 30 unattractive, because they're just too goddamn bland looking. I'm not controlling them or infantiziling them. They can fuck whoever they want, and I support that. It's none of my business.

Won't be me though, because I'm just not into that young smooth look. Frankly, my ideal type is a grizzled biker butch. that's what I get off to.

In that case yes, I don't disagree. I'm mainly opposed to the people in this thread, who use infantilizing language when referring to anyone under 30. I also think people are projecting when they try to make an equal sign between people who find mature younger adults attractive and people are actively trying to hit on them despite being much older. I can recognize that a 25 year old will never find me attractive, and simultaneously recognize that this is a fully grown, fully mature adult at their peak, and find that attractive. Physical attraction isn't really something that we have control over.

I'd never find a 25-year-old sexually attractive at my age (I remember how dramatic and awful I was then, and I would not have sex with that person at gunpoint....I might do my 35-year-old self though, she was a little bit saner)

Of course a 25-year-old wouldn't find me attractive, lol, and it's totally mutual.

Well, I do find them attractive. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with one, but I do find them physically appealing.

They look like kids to me, from my vantage point. I visually cannot tell the difference between early 20s and late teens. Not into it. Visually 30+ only for me.

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The idea that sexual attraction is ONLY about reproduction is so reductive, so limited, and so heteronormative I don't even know where to start. Yes, creepy men use arguments like this to creep on women much younger than them. It's horrible and disgusting.

I don't care about sperm and eggs. If Waffle House had a sperm & egg omelette, I wouldn't order it.

Sex isn't about breeding. Sex is about ENJOYING SEX. Older people are more likely to have more experience and therefore be better at sex just by practice, and that is sexier than your bizarre metric of "fertility." Sex is about consensual enjoyment.

(When I was a young woman of the ages that you fetishize, getting pregnant was my biggest fear. I couldn't imagine anything worse, including death. Anyone fetishizing me for my ~fertility~ would not have been anyone who listened to me or cared about me.)

You know what's one thing more creepy than old men hitting on 20 somethings? 20 something hitting on teenagers, because they think they're still "unripe, green" minors. The solution to creepy men isn't to be creepy women and deny biological facts, but to acknowledge that people age and it's ok. It's ok to not be at your peak.

The best thing is realizing that your 20s and 30s are NOT, in fact, your peak. In my experience, sex is way more enjoyable in your 40s and 50s, because you have well-earned experience, including having tried out a whole lot of shit that didn't work. You have learned how to communicate and how to say no and how to say yes.

I wouldn't fuck a 20-year-old at gunpoint even though they're legal. They're ugly to me, and also socially boring. There's this weird assumption that smoothed-faced barely-adults are attractive to everyone. They're not. Life experience matters far more than looks.

Physical maturity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with sex being enjoyable. When I say "peak" I mean the point in your life where your body and brain is at its top development, adaptability, and performance. And though exceptions exist, for vast majority of older adults their body is starting to give them problems: their hair begins to fall out, their skin loses elasticity, their back and bones hurt more often, their eye-sight gets worse, they learn at a much slower rate, and they have less energy overall. And that's ok! It's a normal part of life. But it's silly to act like your peak is at the point where your body is doing worse than it used to. I think it should give us a lot to think about the fact that the current state of economy is so bad, that we spend our best years slaving away in low-tier positions and by the time we become financially stable and can actually enjoy adulthood, we're already at the point where our body makes it harder to enjoy these freedoms.

You're so bizarrely obsessed with the idea that when your body changes in aging, the sex gets worse.

Sex is an art. The more you have practiced it in youth, the better able you'll be able to maintain it in age. And you're acting like the aches and pains of middle age are somehow debilitating? that's bizarre. There's actually a real problem with STDs spreading in old age homes, because people in their 70s and 80s still like to fuck, and enjoy it.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with "peak." Who cares about peak anything? The point is, humans pursue pleasure whatever their age. I'm 52 and I'm not feeling that much of your weird screed applies to me yet.

Or maybe unlike you I actually do wish I had gotten a partner and kids at the time when it was still physically possible for me. I spent my youth telling myself and everyone around me that I'm aroace and childfree, but after many, many years I've come to realize that what I actually was, was damaged from witnessing the mother's abuse at the hands of all the men she got involved with. I told myself I don't desire relationships and children, because I mentally associated those things with suffering and abuse, and because I wasn't financially stable enough to even think about starting a family. And when after many years I managed to heal, it turned out that there's a biological barrier preventing me from achieving this. So seeing all those comments from women, who didn't have a similar experience, isn't going to make me feel any better about wasting my youth.

AYRT

OK?

I DO have a partner, I don't understand why you assume I don't. You have issues around youth and fertility that have nothing to do with attraction and sex, and I'm so sorry you went through that. But your chance of finding love has NOT passed, not matter your age.

(I don't regret not having kids though, never wanted that, and people were so smug and controlling saying IF YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS YOUNG YOU'LL REGRET IT. Nah, that never happened.)

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LOL, the "peak" of your brain and your body are two different times. Your body peaks around 25. Your brain peaks around 40.

Can you point to credible studies on this? I'd love to read them, because all the studies I've read put the peak of brain development at around 25.

Most of the studies (which are mostly pop-psychology bs) say the brain is only fully developed at 25, meaning any age under that is unfinished. The brain only becomes fully adult at 25. That's the beginning of maturity, not the end.