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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-11-24 04:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's literally that I think they are more physically attractive

You find people who are somewhat out of shape, with bits that are starting to sag and wrinkle, more physically attractive than people who are in excellent shape, with skin that's firm and smooth and flesh that hasn't begun to droop?

I do not understand that aesthetic preference at all. It's as inexpliable to me as preferring fruit that's begun to spoil to fruit that's perfectly ripe. But it takes all kinds, so cool. It's nice for you that your romantic partner/prospects won't grow rapidly less physically attractive as you get older.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
That's presuming someone is in better shape at 20 than 50, which reaaaaaally isn't always the case, that someone at 20 won't be completely baby-faced and that someone at 50 will be sagging all over the place and also like...what do you plan on doing as you get older, do you think?

I understand the idea of the aesthetic preference, but it just seems so artificial to me. Then again I'm over 30 so maybe it's just that 20-somethings keep getting younger.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I'm over 30 and 20 somethings are still way more attractive to me than people my age. Especially men, who often start losing hair when they hit 30, which isn't very attractive to me. While there are some older people, who are still attractive, there isn't as many of them as among younger people. It's sad, but I can't change my preferences, and if men can keep dating women 10 years younger than them I see no reason to be ashamed of feeling attracted to people 10 years younger than me as a woman.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
It depends how the gap spends over years.

35-25 is fine. 45-25 is dodgier. 55-25 is kind of ew. 65-25 is creepy as fuck.

Your own body is aging. Make peace with that. With your own body's changes. Seek out partners within 15 years of you on either side! They exist.

I'm 50, and I have a vast range available to me. I'll go 30 to 70 depending on interests and activity level.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's funny you're telling me to make peace with my aging, when I seem to be one one of the few people in this thread who have made peace with the fact that I've grown old and my body is no longer at its peak condition and sexual maturity. You're not a minor at 50, even if it's comforting for you to think that way.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not a minor at 50, even if it's comforting for you to think that way.

What a bizarre statement. Why would a 50-year-old even want to be a minor? Being a minor sucks.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get the appeal of perfectly smooth skin. It does nothing for me. I like lines that have character and a face that looks like it's experienced some things.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
DA Not even lines for me, necessarily, but even just some weathering/"ruggedness", mmm. Not to mention muscles that are actually good for something and have done the work.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA, but some of it is an age thing. As I have aged, so have my tastes, although tbh they always ran a little older than the my peers. I generally legit physically fancy slightly older men whose bodies look a bit more 'lived in.' 20-somethings rarely do anything for me at all. They're often too pretty, and that has never been my thing. There are probably exceptions but few and far between.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA

One of the things I like better about British TV as opposed to US is that there are a lot more people allowed to have major roles who look normal to me, as someone who lives in the US but not in Hollywood or in a super rich area. There are people aging normally, not perfect blinding white teeth, most casts don't look like airbrushed magazine models, etc.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
"It's nice for you that your romantic partner/prospects won't grow rapidly less physically attractive as you get older."

this is how you plan on living your life, huh?

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Imagine if they had a spouse, who will also age. Will they dump them when they're not babyfaced anymore?

Imagine if their spouse was so obsessed with youthful looks taht they dumped them for a younger model when they weren't turned on anymore.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's fine to be attracted only to that ideal of youth if you're into that, but that stage is very short-lived. Most people in countries with even semi-decent health care will spend more of their lives over 30 than under it.

I think the fruit only begins to spoil around 60-65. Under 30, it's way too green, not even near ripe.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
> not even near ripe.

That might be your personal impression, but it's not biologically true. Human beings reach full physical and mental maturity at the age of 25 at the latest. This is also the age where pregnancy carries the least risks, and sperm quality is at its highest point. At the age of 32 fertility drops by 50%, and by the age of 35 it drops by 80%. Most sperm banks don't even accept the sperm of men over the age of 35 because of the lower sperm quality. I'm glad your preferences match your age as you grow older, but personal preferences and the biological reality of aging and its effects on human reproduction are an undeniable reality, and it's not at all strange or shameful, or borderline immoral for people to feel attracted to humans at their peak reproductive age.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
This is weird cishet shit. I'm not straight and I've never wanted kids, so attraction has absolutely zero to do with sperm and egg omelets.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Peak fertility has nothing to do with sexual attraction unless you're a weird MRA who's devoted to the idea that men should be allowed to creep on early-20s women for the whole of their lives no matter how old they get.

and.... you are kind of sounding like that. I don't know your gender or orientation, but your obsession with fertility really suggests that it's all about older penises being entitled to younger vaginas. If that's not what you're saying, please make that clear.

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(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's nice for you, but sexual maturity has a lot to do with sexual reproduction. Pretending like people in their peak reproductive age are somehow minors who are too young to be having sex or be sen in a sexual light is delusional to a laughable degree.

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(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
The idea that sexual attraction is ONLY about reproduction is so reductive, so limited, and so heteronormative I don't even know where to start. Yes, creepy men use arguments like this to creep on women much younger than them. It's horrible and disgusting.

I don't care about sperm and eggs. If Waffle House had a sperm & egg omelette, I wouldn't order it.

Sex isn't about breeding. Sex is about ENJOYING SEX. Older people are more likely to have more experience and therefore be better at sex just by practice, and that is sexier than your bizarre metric of "fertility." Sex is about consensual enjoyment.

(When I was a young woman of the ages that you fetishize, getting pregnant was my biggest fear. I couldn't imagine anything worse, including death. Anyone fetishizing me for my ~fertility~ would not have been anyone who listened to me or cared about me.)

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
You know what's one thing more creepy than old men hitting on 20 somethings? 20 something hitting on teenagers, because they think they're still "unripe, green" minors. The solution to creepy men isn't to be creepy women and deny biological facts, but to acknowledge that people age and it's ok. It's ok to not be at your peak.

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(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
It's nice for you that your romantic partner/prospects won't grow rapidly less physically attractive as you get older.

ummmm...Yes? This is normal to be attracted to people around your own age group, and that range of attraction SHOULD change as you grow older.

are you so attached to young people being the only attractive people that you'll dump a partner as they age out of your preferred visual image? That you'll be in denial as you naturally age out of that very fleeting temporary stage?

Are you saying that you're so attached to the youthful look that you'll only be attracted to young ppl long after ppl in that age range are too young for you?

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the world of having differing preferences :D

But good grief, your spoilt fruit metaphor makes me slightly worried about you.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
YEP

Who you're attracted to is a personal and subjective thing, which is fine, but that line sounds like those sleazy dudes who are always trading in their wives for a newer model every decade.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Allow me to correct your metaphor. Twenty somethings, aesthetically, are fruit that is still green and hard and dry. Forty somethings are fruit that is tender and juicy and full of flavor.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
Biology disagrees, but whatever makes you feel better, I guess.