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⌈ Secret Post #5443 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Because RTD isn't about super gay themes, a massive troll to the audience, and into big concept with uneven executions? Anyone thinking RTD is gonna produce a straightlaced old Who show is kidding themselves.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm fine with it, if only because I KNOW that these are the same type of people who will instantly turn on him the moment the show does something they don't like. Meanwhile I'm just gonna be over in the corner, enjoying myself even though I still have some stuff I prefer over other stuff.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
As someone whose fandom experience was made absolutely miserable by everyone's negativity during Eleven's run, I feel this

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Look on the bright side, you'll get to feel superior when everyone hates the new season.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, don't worry, hating the current/former show runner and loving only the former/current show runner is a whole thing in Who fandom. People will hate him again soon enough.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I do like RTD and hadn't been a fan of Moffat and Chibnall - but I do wish we could have gotten someone else - especially someone more experienced with science-fiction just to inject new ideas into the show.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, someone like Jonathan Nolan might be interesting.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I like Jonathan Nolan plenty. But I don't know if he has the right tone for Doctor Who, and also he's never worked in British TV, and also he's currently running a Fallout TV show and also still Westworld.

I don't know who else should be in charge of it, though, but probably some random person in British TV. Honestly it's a tough series to write for, especially now that science fiction (at least the kind that makes interesting Doctor Who) is an incredibly marginal part of culture.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
The Genie says "wish granted", and poofs away in a cloud of purple smoke, cackling as he does so.

Next day, the BBC announces that Rick Berman is taking the reins of Doctor Who. There will still be a female "Doctor", but now it will be a 19yr old supermodel and she'll wear a skin tight catsuit and be called "The Nurse".

Also, Jack Harkness is back with his long time wife and every five minutes they will reference how straight and vanilla their marriage is. Rick Berman, everybody.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me because the BBC is absolutely talented at being a disappointment.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
I am here for the fallout when elitist nerd boys will get extremely gay troll RTD.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yaaaay, a return to workplace abuses

(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
How about just not thinking too much about what this or that part of fandom will be happy about or whether they will consider it a win or a loss, and just being happy or unhappy with the promise of more RTD episodes for yourself?

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I wish the various showrunners could see that they are pieces of a whole, and should be working together. Each of them has occasionally delivered beautiful episodes and sometimes whole arcs that perfectly encapsulate Doctor Who. But they all have shortcomings, weaknesses. Moffat (for example) is wonderful with whimsical gibberish that is very entertaining and magical but in the end amounts to 'this all fits together because I say so'. Having RTD at his side to sew up all the inconsistencies into a sweeping dramatic long game could be magnificent.

But no, we'll just keep raising a single talented writer with significant limitations to god-status and then wonder what went wrong. In a movie, too many cooks in the kitchen can be a disaster. In a show, I think its necessary, egos be damned.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
same anon, no idea how I copied the account creation url to the title whoops

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-01 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This is (to some extent) a product of how we talk about these shows, rather than an actual attribute of the show itself. For instance Julie Gardner played a huge role as a producer and collaborator during the whole original RTD run on the show. Attributing every characteristic of the show to RTD and elevating him to god-status is something that we do ourselves, and is not actually how the show was made.

(My understanding is that this was much less true during Moffat's run as showrunner and that, for various reasons, Moffat actually did take on a much larger part of the burden of getting the show made and the show was somewhat less collaborative than it had been under RTD, which was probably one reason why the production of the show sometimes ran into issues during that time period) (But I could be wrong about that) (I don't really know anything about the Chibnall era in this regard)
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