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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-12-09 06:01 pm

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philstar22: (Doctor 3 and Master)

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-12-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
everyone has their personal opinions. He's my least favorite showrunner. But even if I loved him, I don't want the show moving backwards. I love Moffatt, and I would not want him brought back as showrunner.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, of course everyone is entitled to their personal opinions. No one has to like RTD. I'm not sure that appointing RTD necessarily means going backwards - the landscape of television has changed dramatically since 2005 and RTD has basically done nothing but make critically acclaimed shows since leaving the show the first time, so I think it could be really interesting to see how he adapts.

But no matter what he does, whether he succeeds or he fails, of course it's not going to be to everyone's taste. It's not surprising to me that some people wouldn't want RTD back. What's surprising to me is how simultaneously vituperative and one-sided it is. A lot of it is also people who seem to be still really angry at Moffat not being popular - and, just as you say that everyone has their own personal opinions, people are allowed not to like Moffat.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-10 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, the anti-Moffat movement back in the day was also extremely vituperative and one-sided--to the point that I had to disengage from the fandom entirely and still can't bring myself to actually interact, it was so ubiquitous. Even nice things about other eras were always tinged with a "remember when DW was actually good lol" note. It sucked.

So my feelings on RTD's return are, yeah, partially fueled by bitterness about how awful that time was, and partially remembering all the things I hadn't enjoyed about RTD's writing that fandom at the time made it impossible to talk about. Now that the pendulum has swung the other way, it's a relief, honestly.

(And there's always been a "they changed it, now it sucks" quotient to new showrunners, but modern fandom makes everything worse)

(Anonymous) 2021-12-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, of course it's true that the anti-Moffat movement was vituperative - I think the fandom got very vicious in general for a good while (and I think the Sherlock crossover element made the whole thing a lot worse). But I also think that it's basically a good thing that time has passed and it's gotten less bitter and venomous. I enjoy the ability to talk about different peoples' runs on the shows with nuance and acknowledge that we like or dislike different eras of the show, which is why it's weird and kind of a bummer for so many people to treat it as their opportunity to finally destroy RTD and his fans once and for all.