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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-10 05:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #5484 ]


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Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
people forget that trans women's access to women's spaces was not a political issue to the cis world back then

It sure was, though - ask Michigan Womyn's Fest waaaaay back in 1991. I get your point about JKR in general, but TERFs got off to a flying start round about that time.

(To be fair, a lot of radical feminists at the time believed that trans women were women and should be supported as such, it's much later that there's any kind of mainstream anti-trans stance.)

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yah, I remember the worldwide media coverage of Michigan Womyn's Fest back in '91. Actually, wait. I don't, because there wasn't any, because it wasn't a political issue in the cis world back then.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Chill.

same anon you replied to

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh believe me, I've talked to old school TERFs. I know they're very real. One of them actually told me about this festival at length & how trans women are predatory men, etc. Instead of being embarrassed when I outed myself as trans, she told me I'm a deluded traitor to my gender (I'm ftm). Not those exact words but pretty close.

But, let's not forget: JKR is also straight and probably didn't give a shit or even know about any of this either. This is the same woman who thought she was a great ally for making Dumbledore gay, despite not actually writing him being gay in 7 books or 2 spin-off movies - both heavily featuring his purported male love interest. And depriving me of Jude Law kissing men onscreen is one crime of Grindelwald that I simply cannot abide.

Anyway. JKR is a transphobic asshole but Rita Skeeter isn't trans.

Re: same anon you replied to

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Rita appear in like the third or fourth book?

She was probably inspired by actual reporters and gossip that Rowling became aware of as a famous person.

Re: same anon you replied to

(Anonymous) 2022-01-11 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody says she is trans, what they are saying is that the terms Rowling use to signal that skeeter is a villain is the same terms she uses to insinuate trans people are also.
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Re: same anon you replied to

[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2022-01-11 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a vague memory of the Guardian Women's Page in the nineties, which these days is TERF central, talking about trans-exclusionary feminism as a marginal, mostly US thing.* I don't know when Rowling started obsessing about trans folk, but I doubt it was at the front of her mind back then.

(The animagus argument is batshit. Plenty of other animagi in canon, more of them portrayed positively than not).

* Admittedly they also published Germaine Greer, but I don't recall it either being the party line, or as big a deal, as it is now.