[ SECRET POST #5486 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5486 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ikarus was right all along.

[philstar22]

I wouldn't say that in the sense that in general sacrificing that many innocent people is not okay. But I think the idea that Earth is somehow different than every other planet and humans better than any other sapient race and therefore deserved to be saved when other races were sacrificed the way humans were going to be is stupid. I mean, I get why "human exceptionalism" is done in scifi, but I wish there was more scifi that didn't do that.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s only really Ajak who outright says Earth and humans were special. I don’t know why she suddenly face-turned, or why she thought that. Other than maybe she was never okay with the slaughter of any of the planets and their inhabitants, and while she went along with it out of a sense of duty, it finally wore down on her when she got to Earth. Or maybe the inhabitants of the previous planets weren’t as sentient as humans are, so she thought genuinely were different(not that that would be a good excuse for letting them be wiped out)? IDK, those are just theories.

The other Eternals that choose to save humanity, it can be implied that they think humans are special because this is the first time that they’ve rebelled, despite having their memories wiped every time they move on to another planet, and that meaning that they’ve never shown this rebellious spirit before that we know of. But they never outright say humans are special, and they would have no way of remembering the previous planets to know if that was true or false anyways, without the memories that Arishem would be unlikely to give back(other than when Cersi takes over for Ajak of course).

I think it makes senses that Cersi and the Eternals that support her would have reservations about letting the people they had protected and lived with for millennia be slaughtered. I get why it had to be Earth and humanity that made them rebel from Arishem’s grand design from a story point of view. Because Earth is the main setting of the majority of MCU movies, despite the rest of universe itself being established and explored a little elsewhere. But I think the planets and their inhabitants that The Eternals didn’t rebel for deserved to be saved too.

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t agree at all. I don’t think the other civilizations deserved what happened to them either, so I don’t just disagree because Earth and humanity are somehow special. The MCU basically already established that Earth is not that special, especially because of the far reaching scope of the universe it takes place in. It’s full of exceptional individuals, but I don’t think that makes it an inherently exceptional planet.

I remember walking out of the theatre after seeing the movie, and I overheard a family was arguing about it. The husband(who was being a snotty and condescending asshole in general, but his point of view wasn’t part of that, I just don’t agree with it.) was talking about how wrong it was for the rogue Eternals to “basically kill” all the future planets and life forms that would be created by Earth’s end at the hand of Tiamut. And the wife was saying that they weren’t killing anything, because nothing had even been created yet. They had some other parts of their argument, but that was the part I ended up agreeing with the most. Was it still selfish for Cersi and her Eternal supporters to go through with betraying their grand role? Yes. But is there still a good argument for why they still did the right thing? I definitely believe so. Using sentient beings for basically a power source and then discarding them is messed up, and of course some of the Eternals who had been living with humans for so long would have reservations about letting them all be slaughtered, no matter the reason.

Also, all the talk from the husband about “killing” things that hadn’t been formed or born yet, really reminded me of pro-lifer talk, which makes me a bit uncomfortable. I don’t know if it’s fair to judge anyone who takes that point of view in regards to the fictional setting of The Eternals or the MCU in general though, because I know that it’s different from real life issues.