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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-13 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #5487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5487 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Council Wars]



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02.
[Encanto]


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03.
[Diminish]


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04.
[Shadow and Bone]


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05.
[The Foxhole Court]


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06.
[Graham Norton]


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07.
[It's A Wonderful Life]











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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2022-01-13 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
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fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-13 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you to the person who helped me yesterday.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-13 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
But for Pete's sake, I just got it from Google, the same as the people who helped you the day before. I don't mind looking stuff up - it's interesting - but I don't really understand your mindset.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-13 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I do google, but I also ask around in case anyone has personal experience too. Google can be inconsistent and contradictory, so asking around in case anyone has direct experience is always worth a shot too. I do not understand why this upsets you so much?

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-13 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Not upset! Just befuddled

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Then you didn’t have to answer their thanks, especially because they already explained why they chose to ask instead of Google in response to your question yesterday. You say you’re not upset, but you’re coming off as just as rude with your “befuddlement” as if you were upset.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
*coughs* DA, but I was the one that asked re why the Google yesterday. I have nothing to do with this current thread aside from this comment. I was just genuinely curious last night? I think it's sweet they thanked the nonny that helped them.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Then I take back that part. Sorry, my bad!

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
No they're really not.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
They are. How is it not at least a bit rude to respond to someone thanking people for helping them out with “I just got the info to help you out from Google, which you should have done, and I don’t get why you don’t”. OP said they don’t get why it upsets them, so it’s indicated that they feel like anon is being rude and weirdly dismissive as well. It was just a thank you, it didn’t require this response, whether you personally think it comes off as rude or not.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
(Not to put words in OP’s mouth, though, which is why I said it’s “indicated” that they may feel this way. I could be wrong about how they may feel, of course.)

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
which you should have done, and I don’t get why you don’t

This was absolutely not my point at all. What was confusing is trying to understand how it was helpful. Yesterday, they said they didn't like to google because they thought the results were untrustworthy, so I figured that my comment hadn't been helpful because it was based on Google, and then I was confused today because it apparently was helpful. I'm sorry if it came across as rude.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I do get the disconnect between not wanting to take Google as the only source, but seeking help from people that were most likely using Google. I don’t think you were aiming to be rude, it just came across a little bit rude in the way you didn’t really acknowledge the words of thanks in favor of asking your question. It’s is a completely fair question to ask, though, and I’m sorry I got the intent of it so wrong.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I have no way of knowing whether there were a couple of Mississippi residents on FS or not. It is worth asking, because there might have been one or two posters with direct experience. I don't know where everyone lives or not.

Having said all that, I wish I'd never asked now. I think I'll shelve this fic for the time being. It isn't fun anymore.

Re: fanfic research question

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m not saying your question wasn’t worth asking either, as you never know what kind of locals you can find around here(or anywhere on the internet). I was just saying I got where the other anon was coming from now.

I’m sorry this has soured the fic for you, legitimately! :(

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Asking questions to real people and discussing things with them is a valuable resource, especially for writing stories. It can give you varied experience, opinions, and cement ideas for you that a more scientific, clinical, or educational resource would. So it's absolutely valid to ask questions for other people to answer rather than just relying on Google (a search engine not the sources themselves just as a reminder) to give "yes" or "no" answers to.

Didn't join the discussion in the other thread. Just wanted to point that out. "Just Google it," is a response I'm tired of hearing. If you don't want to answer the question then don't answer it. But you're not adding anything.

For example: reading an article or book about a historic event is not the same as speaking with a historian (or even multiple historians) who are knowledgeable on the subject you wish to know more about. The best writers always seek out information from other humans not just an algorithm that plucks links for you.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-14 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, it depends on the question and the type of answer you’re looking for. If you have multiple questions like “what’s the per capita income in Missouri” or “Do crayfish live in salt water or fresh?” Then “just google it” is appropriate. Google is less helpful for things like “what sort of jobs are considered ‘upper middle class’” or “is there any good Cajun food in Kansas City?”

(Anonymous) 2022-01-15 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
+1 to both of your comments.