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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-09 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5542 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5542 ⌋

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[British National Theatre]


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[Daomu Biji/The Lost Tomb]


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[Crazy Rich Asians]


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[Bo Burnham]


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[Mr Ballen's youtube channel]


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[Maiden Holmes]


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[Horizon Forbidden West]
















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[personal profile] fscom 2022-03-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
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[British National Theatre]

Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2022-03-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish the National Theatre would put on more humorous (or at least less depressing) plays. Drama doesn't have to be dismal and emotionally wrenching in order to be worthwhile art or good theatre.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone knows that if it is fun and upbeat it isn't real drama and might even be *gasp* commercially accepted instead of critically accepted.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
IDK, I think with a lot of things, the logic is that there's plenty of other spaces for things that are popular and happy and funny and commercially viable, whereas there may not be other places for things that are serious and dark. And I think there's some validity to that.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Things can be serious and dark and still contain kernels of hope though, rather than being grim and miserable 100%

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
da

And most serious and dark things do contain kernels of hope. There's room for things that don't follow that formula.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
yeah but there's a fine line between dark fiction versus nihilistic fiction and frankly at this point given all current events of the past couple years I'm plain tapped out on tolerating nihilistic fiction

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

That's perfectly fine! You don't have to consume nihilistic fiction. But most fiction caters to people who aren't into hopelessness or nihilism in their entertainment, and there being a few spaces devoted to that niche is perfectly reasonable.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but it always seems like those niches like to act as if they're the only serious real ~art~ which irritates me

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
" But most fiction caters to people who aren't into hopelessness or nihilism in their entertainment"

[citation needed]

We've been mainlining grimdark in increasing strength for the last twenty years, bleakness and godawful characters are very much the norm now. It has become the default setting of pretty much every writer in the biz. It is the upbeat and hopeful that is the rare and fragile at this point. Give me some of that old fashioned idealism, please.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're defining "grimdark" as "anything that has any conflict or ambiguity anywhere ever", I guess.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can't help but feel that anyone who claims that "all" media is like that these days doesn't actually consume very much media at all.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oof, I saw this one and it was not good. Went in really excited about the cast, but it was just so bleak, with characters that didn’t draw me in at all.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's not just theatre though it's television as well. The latest hit drama needs to be about death, betrayal, people with no redeeming qualities, dismemberment, torture, misery, manipulation, suffering etc etc - and there can never be enough.

I'm not a fan of it so I've lost touch with popular culture in many ways. That must be why we have sport, crafts, our favourite novels.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-10 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean... a lot of theater IS depressing, though? That's nothing new, that's the way it's always been. Even a lot of musicals have very dark underlying themes to them - Cabaret, Ragtime, Miss Saigon, Into the Woods, and on and on. I love theater, but it's definitely a genre that often tends towards darker themes.