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Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

I recently watched Turnng Red on Disney Plus. Thoughts, opinions on it?

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

Too much pandaring.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

Lol!

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was alright. The animation was pretty cute. As a nerdy girl, I didn't really identify with that side of the main character. Maybe because I never really got the boy band thing?

Re: Turning Red movie

[hey_hey_hey]

Nobody Like U is the song Billie Eilish and Finneas should win their Oscar for instead of No Time To Die. The way the song was incorporated into the movie was perfect.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

I liked it a lot. I'm a big sucker for the trope of the monster is the metaphorical side of ourselves that we're trying to hide from others.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

Asian nerdy woman here who was a nerdy Asian kid-- dear fucking Christ it hit a lot harder than it had any right to. My sister and I were both silently freaking out bc Mei-Mei's mom was so much like ours... right up until she apologized, lol. Never gotten that one out of her. But god, the whole "you're a good girl, your friends are probably on drugs and pulling you down the wrong path because there's no way YOU could like these things" is just so... on-point. Even the generational trauma thing, woof. I wasn't expecting all that.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

My only comment is that someone said the only reason it's getting attacked in some places is because it's about a girl and talks about periods, and if it had been about a boy and talked about masturbation, nobody would bat an eye. And oof, I'm still feeling the weight of all that straw. I know we live in a society, but we don't live in that much of a society.

But in that case, I hope it replaces Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret as the essential controversial female puberty tale.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the attacks I have seen are:

1. It's too woke, look at all the people with (non-white) accessories!! (say you've never been to Toronto without saying you've never been to Toronto)
2. I can't ~identify~ with a 13 year old Chinese-Canadian
3. It's encouraging not listening to your parents (*stares in practically every Disney movie)
4. Periods shouldn't be talked about in movies for kids, my kids should learn about this when/if I tell them and not earlier!!

So the period thing has come up. I saw one review/complaint that she had to explain periods to her two sons and she didn't feel like it was a movies right to force her to do that...

People always gonna people man...

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - gotta love that second one, especially since that's the one that seems to be getting traction with actual movie reviewers.

A sampling of things that Pixar has made movie reviewers identify with:
Robots, dogs, birds, bugs, toys, and a lamp.

Yeah, surely a 13-year-old girl is a bridge too far.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - Right?! I just can't with people, man. Like, I 100% will probably not watch the movie, but not because I am offended by the character choice or anything, or think I can't identify/understand someone who is not me.

It's purely because I have SUCH bad secondhand embarrassment issues and even the trailer had be going nooooooo pleeeeeease, so I don't think I'd survive the movie lol.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is a false equivalence. It's adjacent to "It's easier to accept the impossible than the improbable" when watching a movie. Anthropomorphic objects that don't exist in real life can, in all honesty, be easier to relate to because they're more equivalent to a blank slate to project onto than a type of person that does exist but isn't like you. For example, I'm not an 80-year-old man, so I didn't relate to the main character from Up. That may or may not be why it's one of my least favorite Pixar movies.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

And yet Up was one of Pixar's most popular movies with a strong following outside the octogenarian community, which makes me think that might have been a 'you' problem.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

For real.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

This incessant talk about movies “needing” to be relatable to be good or resonate with people is ridiculous. Like the other anon said, Up was incredibly successful with pretty much every demographic, and it’s not because it was relatable to everyone or something. It was because it was a good movie. Similarly, whether you like or want to watch Turning Red shouldn’t hang completely on whether you can relate to the protagonist. People that age, or people who can went through similar things at that age can relate, and that’s fine. Big that’s just a bonus. It has no bearing on the movie’s actual quality.

Istg, people going on about it like it’s do or die have made me hate the word “relatable” altogether, especially where art is concerned. And it’s because it’s most often used for bad faith criticism.

And your theory about non-human characters being more relatable because they’re blank slates isn’t completely untrue for everyone, but it’s still just conjecture in general. The reason the other Pixar favorites are loved is because they’re also just good movies that people enjoyed watching, like Up. And the ones people almost universally disliked didn’t perform badly because they failed to be relatable, it’s just because they weren’t very good.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

3. In fairness, it isn't like most Disney protags could listen to their parents even if they wanted to.

Re: Turning Red movie

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the dead parent crew have guardians of some kind. Sometimes the guardians are evil or incompetent, but still. They exist and they're ignored at crucial moments so there can be a plot.