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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-22 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #5555 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5555 ⌋

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Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Always-a-girl!Lan Zhan and Wei Ying (MDZS). If you want pretty cultivator lesbians, Lan Yi and Baoshan Sanren are right there and practically canon, and you can always go for Mianmian, Jiang Yanli, Wen Qing, Cangse Sanren, Madam Lan, Madam Jin, or Madam Yu. They come with all sorts of new tropes and relationships. I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, I just don't get it.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe fans don't like any of those characters? I heard it's pretty standard consensus that the female characters in MDZS are shit. Maybe they want a character they like, not just any "pretty cultivator lesbian" will do.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
SA - It's fanfiction, it's not like you have to keep them in character, and tbh, LY and BS don't really have much other than their attachment to each other fleshed out. Lots of potential there.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
I always feel like these people are unaware that there are also a LOT of GL webnovels. I mean, yeah, playing in the big popular ballpit is more fun and thats why they do it but still...

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I love that you've listed a bunch of ladies that either don't have a single personality trait or never interact, not even slightly. The male characters have stories and actual personalities in MDZS, the women don't, so yeah some people making the male characters wlw because it's much easier than having to invent everything checks out to me. You don't have to do anywhere near as much work to genderflip WWX/LWJ like you would have to for femslash.

When the ladies have actual interaction people do ship them: I know there's a big following for the two ladies in Heaven's Official Blessing, these fans may or may not be a fan of that ship too but in MDZS there's no equivalent because the women are all flat and terrible.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
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And the two women in Heaven's Official that get shipped a lot and have a huge following are not actually women at all, surprise!

It's just weird to me that some people flock to fandoms with no great female characters and OOC genderbend everyone instead of, you know, seek out fandoms that do have female characters.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! It reminds me of the people complaining about the relative lack of femslash in canons like the MCU.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-24 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Wild guess that people into danmei for the plots aren't going to be wildly interested in things like Gossip Girl, or Euphoria, or She-Ra. Or there are also fans who are interested in lots of genres and do write femslash for those shows, you just don't know it because you don't know anything about them other than what they do in the Heaven's Official fandom, specifically.

Someone makes a comment about this every time, and I'd like you to please get it in your heads that wanting more women in the genres you like is not a bad thing, and any time fans are asked to search outside of those genres for representation, that's a sign of failure on the part of the writers of the genre, not the fans.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-24 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
There are wuxia shows that do have female characters, though.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-24 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
And I'd like it to please get it into your head that there are shows and novels in the genres they like that either prominently feature women or are all out GL so it's a failure on the side of those "fans" to not seek them out instead of whining that the sausage fest BL novels don't have enough girls to ship. That's like going to a baseball game and whining that the players don't play enough basketball.