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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-31 05:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #5564 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5564 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah if you don't like the canon you can just say that, it's rather silly to go around asserting that your preferred viewpoint is the actual intent. Even if it does make far more sense than the actual canon. (Transfem Robin Newman my beloved...)

(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind "Character is [headcanon], I don't make the rules", but only because I always read that wording as jokingly hyperbolic. That being said, I don't really engage with headcanon posts so I never end up in drama because of people taking their headcanons way too seriously.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It just feels like one of those jokes that stopped being funny awhile ago. IDK.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Almost always reads as jokingly hyperbolic to me, not serious, and as long as that's the case I can't get too heated up over it
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[personal profile] dancingmouse 2022-03-31 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It stopped being funny when people started taking it seriously.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2022-04-01 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Like Brianna Wu’s thing about how Samus Aran is canonically trans because a design note called her a “newhalf.” She doesn’t make the rules! Samus is trans, and that’s just a fact!

(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. They are obnoxious as hell.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-31 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. They are fatuous, and actively push me away from whatever headcanon someone is spouting.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
What I don't understand is when "headcanon" became shorthand for "major thing about a character that is absolutely not at all supported by canon in any way, shape or form." Growing up in fandom in the 90s and 00s, headcanon always meant stuff like "I headcanon that this character really likes mint chocolate chip ice cream," the kind of thing that could conceivably be believable and that didn't have any sort of larger effect on the character or story as a whole.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
This. When I first got into fandom, headcanon was shit like 'dude wears the CRAZIEST socks' when you never see his socks in canon. Or so and so using a certain brand of shampoo. Stupid little shit.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think it started when people started treating fandom as a tool for performatively demonstrating how morally correct you are by your faves and ships, rather than as a fun game and pastime. So now you get people who still have like 90% canonically straight white dude faves, but who need Diversity(tm) in there so they can claim superiority. So they make up Diverse(tm) headcanon about them to look more "correct" and try to impose it on everyone else so they can feel like they are doing activism or some shit

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember a time when "major thing" headcanons weren't the norm, but that used to mostly mean creating elaborate backstories for characters who didn't have a backstory.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's the kind of headcanoning that actually makes sense, though. Obviously the character HAS a backstory, the creator just hasn't gone into it so if someone wants to write fic about the character they have to fill in the blank themselves.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, headcanon used to mean "I will treat this plausible theory as my personal canon unless something canon contradicts it". Sometimes it was something big, just not something explored in canon.

The current meaning also happened, but it was just "my fic where X is autistic", not called a headcanon.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer those ways of sharing your headcanon because that way you know for sure that it's a headcanon, albeit stated in an obnoxious way. Some people incorporate their headcanons so naturally into their conversations about the canon that it makes it look like they're just stating a fact and it's given me false impressions a number of times when I didn't know the canon yet, and other times I did know the canon but it made me wonder if I'd forgotten a canon detail about the character.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Gah I hate it. I know most of the time it's hyperbolic, but it always reads as passive aggressive. Especially if they insert heart emoji at the end. Can't stand posts like this even when I like headcanon.
Also people really do forget it's not a reality. Just another day I have seen post going something like "character A is canonically fat". And I love this headcanon to death, but in the text all we know that this character is probably not short. Probably. Maybe.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
I've had the fat thing with a character who has a canonical appearance too, like a full on rant on how dare people not draw him fat while the character in question has literally just the most stereotypical dad bod.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-01 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the anon who commented above about how some headcanons are stated in such a way that it makes me doubt my memory of canon. This exact thing happened with a fat character headcanon, Nina from the Grishaverse. I read the books before the Netflix show came out and pictured her as curvy but not fat. Afterwards I read some reviews praising the books for having a "fat" character who liked her body and was seen as sexually desirable, and then the show was cast and fans were angry that her actress wasn't fat. I started assuming the books had said she was fat and I'd been picturing her wrong. Then I reread the books. They do not in fact ever say she's fat, directly or otherwise. It is possible to headcanon that she is, but canon was probably going for curvy, and plump if overweight at all.