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⌈ Secret Post #080 ⌋

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[nest.livejournal.com]

14. For me, the issue is that most het pairings really aren't interesting or well-developed enough to intrigue me. Of course, the same is true for me in regards to most canon-yaoi-based fandoms too; I lost all interest in Gravitation when I found it was all pretty with no psychology. What intrigues me most about slash is the inner conflict. <3 (Plus, like I was saying to a friend last night: It seems that according to many creators for many mainstream fandoms, two male characters have to know each other for a long time to have a believable friendship, whereas a female character can automatically be considered compatible with a male character by simply being female. Thus, the relationship between the two males intrigues me way more than the half-development in the het relationship, and in the female character's personality.

Of course, there are exceptions to that rule too, and it does annoy me when people pair guys for the sake of omghotyaoi instead of omghotRELATIONSHIP.



WORD. Like, I could totally elaborate, but I think you pretty much summed it all up for me. xD;; I don't really like slash for the omghotbuttsecks, but, rather, I enjoy the dynamic presented by two male characters who are just themselves and not reduced to the typical Boy/Girl roles a lot of het pairings shove characters into. If that makes any sense. ;;

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YAAAY JANSEN <3 And omg I know. I mean... the omghotbuttsecks helps and I'll certainly look at fanart and daydream about physically hot pairings, but the pairings I truly love have to have a great relationship. <3

And YES. YAOI = MALE ON MALE, NOT GIRL WITH DICK ON MALE. I dunno if that's what you mean, but. XD; Yeah, like... the dynamic. Guh, the dynamic. And the really sad thing is that in series where yaoi does become canon, it usually just doesn't... have that dynamic. Maybe it's either because it kind of cheapens the experience when you know a series has been created for the sole purpose of yaoi, or yeah, maybe it's because they are forced into those typical Boy/Girl roles that are just so... boring after a while. :[ (Plus, they never seem to address the fact that a guy would most likely have issues with wanting to be with another guy [ESPECIALLY A BEST FRIEND 8D] instead of being totally okay with it.)

AND I should friend you. <3 MAY I?

[nest.livejournal.com]

YAYY ERIN!! :DDD And, yeah, I'm not gonna deny that physically hot pairings are pretty nice. xD (I'm guilty of daydreaming too.) Even so, I agree that the relationship is definitely what makes or breaks an OTP for me. There's usually so much potential between different characters that the writers don't fully explore, and it makes for some interesting fanfic.

AND AMEN. Maybe that's why I tend to not like many canon pairings, whether it's yaoi or not. Sometimes I get the feeling that romantic relationships are just kind of slapped in there to appeal to an audience wanting some sort of love story. But I find the best kinds of love stories are often the ones that aren't screaming "HAY LOOK AT ME I'M A LOVE STORY LOLOL."

And, yeah, those typical Boy/Girl roles are really boring after a point, and not at all that realistic. It's one reason why I get kind of bothered by the whole seme/uke distinction in the yaoi fandom. It's really frustrating to find pairings I like, and then turn around and see authors portray one half as this really buff, manly guy, and the other as this meek, submissive, pure sissy. Especially when it doesn't really reflect how they are together in canon, and it's done solely for the sake of pushing the characters into those roles often found in yaoi (and het, too).

And you're totally right. Realistically, most people would have issues with putting an important relationship through that kind of change. Especially if it was with another guy. MOAR INNER CONFLICT = YAY.

Ooh, dude, feel free to friend me! :3 I'll totally friend you back! I'm kind of surprised it took me this long to get to it. ;;