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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-26 07:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5590 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5590 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Mystic Nine]


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[League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Halo, Devil May Cry]


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[The Lost Tomb]


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[A Heist With Markiplier]


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(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I would say that most antis are either a) young fans who are encountering things outside of the "safe/curated" bubble for the first time and haven't yet learned that no, AO3 is not just like the teen section in their local library (and that's gonna have some pretty dark stuff too) and have equated that squirmy squick feeling they get as "this makes me feel bad, therefore it is bad!" or b) bullies who no longer have the "omg you're in fandom how cringe, anyway I decide to treat you until you stop being weird is now fair game" angle to get their power trip so they've changed it to "omg why you do like problematic things, that's so toxic, anyway I decide to treat you until you stop being gross is fair game and hey, Type-A fans, don't you want an easy answer that will make you feel better? Then follow me!"

And it's not really the A-type fan's fault that they got manipulated by the B-type fans. You've grown, you know why what you did wasn't cool and you're not doing it anymore. Give yourself the grace looking back at yourself that you wish you had given other fans then, you deserve it too.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
The B fans appear to have changed because now they often have a thin veneer of a social-justice motivation over their bullying. If you can wildly reach to come up with a reason why something is "fetishizing" or whatever, you can whip up an army of naive, uncritical A fans even faster than if you just say it's Mary Sues or bad writing, and you can get them to be a lot more vicious because they feel like they're doing something righteous.

It's really terrible because it undermines the seriousness of the concepts they're using to justify what is, at its heart, the same old petty bullying and shipwars and grudgewank it's always been. Now there are too many people who don't know what "fetishizing" and "grooming" and words like that even truly mean anymore.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Also people calling a pairing between a 17-year-old and a 20-year-old "pedo," or more stupidly, a 25-year-old and a 60-year-old when what they really mean is "I disapprove of this age gap and/or one person being underaged." I fully respect someone's right to dislike something. What I don't respect is a dishonest argument and/or diluting terms in order to justify that dislike.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Those two types are the same people at different stages of antihood. Most antis who are dumb kids unfortunately don't grow out of it, they just become dumb but more influential adults. Many of them are now the creators of shows and books with their own fandoms. This is the future of fandom I'm afraid.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

But I’m not sure I agree with any of this. Where is the one precedent or evidence of this happening enough to make you believe this? And it’s a bit overly cynical to believe this is the future of fandom when there’s still so many proshippers, both in fandom and in the actual entertainment business. Just look at Hannibal’s creator as an example of a proshipper in the business.