[ SECRET POST #5600 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5600 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately there seems to be a real dearth in Hollywood in terms of being able to make good, exciting adventure stories. It's very strange, because it doesn't seem like it should be all that difficult to do, but it seems very consistent. I mean, just look at how bad the 4th Indy movie was, or the Mummy reboot. So I don't know if anyone would be able to pull it off.

[(Anonymous)]

It is the overreliance on CGI and special effects sequences I blame. They get in the way of the story. Back when they used practical effects they couldn't afford too many of them, so they had to be judicious about where they appeared in the story. That meant stronger story elements connecting them. Now it is just action sequence after action sequence after quick cut action sequence, interspersed with quips. The action sequences are no longer the highlight of the movie, but just the background noise.

And that is the best case scenario. Worst case you get a case of the grimdarks and all joy is sacrificed upon the altar of moody wangst and desaturation.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK that seems like a really simplistic, pat answer to me. I mean, for one thing, remembering to tell a good story is a completely basic part of moviemaking. So even if CGI allows directors to get away with not doing so, it still doesn't explain why all of their most basic instincts as storytellers have apparently completely atrophied. For another thing, there are some movies that (IMO at least) use CGI extensively and still have satisfying stories and good action scenes. And the problem with a lot of movies isn't really the CGI - for instance the problem with Peter Jackson's movies, which use CGI extensively, isn't the action scenes or even really the characterization, they're just too long.

(I did remember that there was that Tomb Raider movie that came out a few years ago that I really liked, so that was one decent adventure movie Hollywood has made recently, at least)

nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I think ayrt has a point, but it may not be the whole answer. combine overuse of CGI action sequences standing in for a story with movie-by-commitee, risk-adverse studios, and the failure of the industry in general to fund anything that isn't either a blockbuster OR an Oscar-bait drama, and we end up with the perfect shitstorm.

personally I lay the blame for atrophied storytelling chops on movie-by-commitee - that is, the tendency to have 4 executive producers and a corporate board dictating the editing and revising after all the good stuff has been filmed, trying to rework it into something that hits a bunch of alogrithms for their demographic, story be damned. but like the CGI, it's part of the whole.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually kind of like Indy 4. Shia and his character aren't good, but I enjoyed the rest of it.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, loved Marion.

[(Anonymous)]

I'll agree that there's no fundamental reason that it couldn't have been good. And actually, parts of it are very good - all the stuff at the university is great.

The problem is once they go into the jungle, it gets mired into this endless runaround of betrayals and escapes and nonsense, and the jungle action scenes are not good.

[(Anonymous)]

They burned most of the audience goodwill with that stupid fake looking cgi prairie dog right at the start, you could hear the groans from the entire theater when I saw the movie. That was the fridge goodwill they burned with that. If they needed a prairie dog to set the scene, there was literally no reason not to use a real one. It was cgii for the sake of cgi, and exactly what was talked about in the previous thread.