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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-06 07:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5600 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-05-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're alright with subtitles, then The Lost Tomb series would scratch your itches.

(A long-form serial with lots of adventure shenanigans and also... it has really good people? Don't know a better way of saying it. The people are good people.)

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, I don't mind the subtitles, but I really do mind airbrush. How bad it is?

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
*hand waggle* Depends on the season. (They were made by different teams.)

Lost Tomb 1 is... fun, but the production values are a touch shaky and some of the supporting actors are weak. No airbrush that I noticed.

Lost Tomb 2 and 2.5 No airbrush to notice. Really interesting set design and use of landscape.

Ultimate Note. Heavy on the airbrush and bland shadowless lighting.

Sand Sea. Completely Fucking Gorgeous. Mad ensemble piece. No airbrush. Interesting camerawork and wonderful use of light.

Reboot: Sound of Providence. No noticeable airbrush. Interesting camera work. Sometimes gets a little monochrome.

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Mystic 9. A little airbrush. Pretty period costume.

Time Raiders. Hokey and glorious Steampunk AU. Heavy on the cgi, but also the way they build the sets and the clothing makes it feel weirdly grounded? Didn't notice much airbrush.


All of them have completely ridiculous stunts and strong relationships among the leads. And labyrinthine plots.

Hope that helps?

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-06 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately there seems to be a real dearth in Hollywood in terms of being able to make good, exciting adventure stories. It's very strange, because it doesn't seem like it should be all that difficult to do, but it seems very consistent. I mean, just look at how bad the 4th Indy movie was, or the Mummy reboot. So I don't know if anyone would be able to pull it off.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-06 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It is the overreliance on CGI and special effects sequences I blame. They get in the way of the story. Back when they used practical effects they couldn't afford too many of them, so they had to be judicious about where they appeared in the story. That meant stronger story elements connecting them. Now it is just action sequence after action sequence after quick cut action sequence, interspersed with quips. The action sequences are no longer the highlight of the movie, but just the background noise.

And that is the best case scenario. Worst case you get a case of the grimdarks and all joy is sacrificed upon the altar of moody wangst and desaturation.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
IDK that seems like a really simplistic, pat answer to me. I mean, for one thing, remembering to tell a good story is a completely basic part of moviemaking. So even if CGI allows directors to get away with not doing so, it still doesn't explain why all of their most basic instincts as storytellers have apparently completely atrophied. For another thing, there are some movies that (IMO at least) use CGI extensively and still have satisfying stories and good action scenes. And the problem with a lot of movies isn't really the CGI - for instance the problem with Peter Jackson's movies, which use CGI extensively, isn't the action scenes or even really the characterization, they're just too long.

(I did remember that there was that Tomb Raider movie that came out a few years ago that I really liked, so that was one decent adventure movie Hollywood has made recently, at least)

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I actually kind of like Indy 4. Shia and his character aren't good, but I enjoyed the rest of it.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think the Indiana Jones movies are dated at all, because they're set in the 30s-50s. People weren't woke then.

I'd rather see a new series in the universe, like some student of Dr. Jones who was inspired to search for...one of the seven wonders of the world because they were disappeared by a villain who put them in an undersea museum or something.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
The 2nd movie is extremely, extremely dated. And it's not just the in-universe attitudes of the fictional characters - the movie absolutely puts its thumb on the scale. I don't have a big problem with the 1st or 3rd but Temple of Doom is incredibly racist (which is unfortunate because it's awesome otherwise).

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think the Indiana Jones movies are dated at all, because they're set in the 30s-50s. People weren't woke then.

I'd almost agree with you if it was just about people being racist to one another, within the historical context. But some of the movies are just plain old racist in a way that wasn't great at the time the film was made and definitely looks bad now. Temple of Doom was just... yeah.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
“I don't think the Indiana Jones movies are dated at all, because they're set in the 30s-50s. People weren't woke then.”

This is a weird bad take. And it’s just plain untrue, as other anons have explained.

Your second paragraph though, I agree with. That would make for a good spinoff.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2022-05-07 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Haha until I read your last bit, I was about to say that as 90s kid/born in the mid-80s kid, The Mummy of the late 90s basically filled the hole in my heart left by no new Indy films.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
But what is there to fill the hole in the heart left by no new Mummy films????

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esteefee: Jake Lonergan from Cowboys and Aliens facing down approaching alien ship (cowboy)

[personal profile] esteefee 2022-05-07 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather see Indiana Jones in the Year of Our Lord 2022 raiding the British Museum et alia and returning all the antiquities to their native lands...

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
i can really see mr "it belongs in a museum" trying to empty museums

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'd much rather see it aimed at private collectors. Museums at least can be visited.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, given the post colonial history of a lot of these places, if the British and American museums hadn't taken them then they would have gone the way of the Bamiyan Buddhas. Those things did belong in a museum, because they'd have been destroyed otherwise. A lot of the nations demanding the return are still not stable, and would still end up with the artefacts destroyed. Even Egypt still managed to comprehensively wreck King Tut's death mask, and Greece and Italy are earthquake central where historic buildings and friezes are regularly destroyed.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Indiana Jones dir Taika Waititi: All about Indy stealing things from the British museum to return them to museums in the actual country of origin and being chased by secret museum agents.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
And presumably also The Louvre, all the big American museums, museums in other European capitals, museums in China?

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
The two new Jumanji movies were fun, as were Jungle Cruise and The Lost City.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
unfortunately, as a sworn enemy of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, I'll simply have to take your word for it

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there's Hooten & the Lady, a one season show about Lady Alex, curator for the British Museum, and Hooten, an adventurer, who travel the world to solve ancient mysteries. Let me copy-paste the imdb synopsis of the second episode:

Hooten asks Lady Alex to help him find the long lost Sibylline Books, a collection of mystical prophecies. In Rome, the museum curator quickly finds herself scaling the Sistine Chapel, battling a sewer alligator and facing the Mafia.

I saw this a while back but from what I remember, that sums the show up pretty well. Iirc, it is
• only as racist as the average tv show,
• pretty colonial,
• features a kickass woman (played by the same actress as Kitty in Elementary) as the main character who'd rather travel through the jungle in Cambodia than partake in British peerage society stuff (like planning her wedding), and
• is stupid in the same way the Indiana Jones movies were stupid. See the synopsis.
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2022-05-07 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think Hollywood relies too much on reboots and not enough on originals and it's starting to show.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-07 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This has been a thing for a while though. So there’s nothing really starting to show that hasn’t been showing for decades. The writing on the walls has been there. Hollywood has almost never relied entirely on original projects. From the start, there’s been a plethora of adaptations, sequels, and remakes. It just seems like most movies were original because those are the revolutionary works that get remembered more fondly. At least that’s my theory, I could be totally off base. And there is still original projects being made today.

Also, not all original projects are good, and not all reboots are bad. It’s still worth making original things of course, regardless of the success rate. But that doesn’t mean that reboots shouldn’t be made. The reason some original projects don’t get made or don’t do well isn’t always because a studio turned it down in favor of a reboot. Not saying that doesn’t happen, it’s just not always the cause like I’ve seen some say.

I don’t know, I feel like I’ve just heard knee-jerk reboot/remake/sequel hate for so long. Not saying you’re not justified in feeling this way or that it’s not a completely understandable position, but I’ve just heard the same complaints for so long, and nothing has ever really changed. I’m pretty sure I used to feel the same way you do, but I gave up feeling that way at some point. I don’t remember why. I just know that I don’t really agree anymore that it’s as much of a problem. That’s probably wrong, idk.