[ SECRET POST #5600 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5600 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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04. [SPOILERS for Exit/Corners]




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05. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]




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06. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]


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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh no, the many millions of people who read/watched Harry Potter properties and might have a scarf or something should all burn them to satisfy 1-2% of the population who thinks they're all transphobes.

I don't particularly care for Harry Potter, but many fans separate the works they enjoy from the author. Lovecraft's work is great, but he was a total dick. I don't assume people are racist if they have a Cthulhu t-shirt.

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[(Anonymous)]

What is Lovecraft's twitter handle?

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[(Anonymous)]

He's too ugly for any standard social media, but he has a substack.

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[(Anonymous)]

But the argument being made ITT was not that JKR is bad, and still alive, and therefore we need to isolate her and not support her (and FTR I do agree that JKR sucks and people should try not to give her money or attention in any way).

The argument being made here was that people who are Harry Potter fans cannot be trusted and are a threat to trans people. I don't see why that would be more or less true if JKR was dead.

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[(Anonymous)]

But the fact that JKR is alive, and continues to have a big influence politically is a key part of what makes her transphobia and rhetoric so dangerous. So Lovecraft and other deceased authors are apples to oranges. The fact that JKR is alive might not have been mentioned as important to this discussion, but the implications are pretty clear because a living author with an active Twitter account they use to rally TERFs is obviously different than an author who died 100 years ago.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA - And yet, enjoying an author's works of fiction does not implicitly indicate anything about a person, regardless of whether the author is alive or dead. Hell, if anything liking Lovecraft's work is more "problematic" because his messed up values and beliefs are much, much more thematically prominent in his work than JKR's are in HP. But the bottom line is that unless you like Lovecraft's work because you're racist/antiemetic/xenophobic and you feel his work serves and validates your views, there isn't a problem.

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[(Anonymous)]

I never said it did. I don’t believe that everyone who continues to like HP or at least wears Kerch from it shares JKR’s views.

I was just telling you why Lovecraft was a bad example, because the fact that JKR is still alive and peddling her transphobia is an important part of the danger she poses. That’s not something Lovecraft can say, being that he’s long dead. So again, nobody outright said JKR being alive was a part of the discussion, but I very much think it’s implied, considering how current the whole JKR thing is. And that’s why making the Lovecraft comparison, and denying the person who brought up “what’s his Twitter handle?” has a point about what the discussion actually entails, isn’t quite right.

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[(Anonymous)]

Anon from a few posts ago again - I don't think I necessarily disagree with you, I think the argument that you're making is completely legitimate as far as it goes, there are a lot of arguments where the fact that JKR is alive is germane.

I just don't think it's germane to this specific argument, IE, that Harry Potter fans are more likely to be transphobic and hence are untrustworthy. I don't think whether or not the author is alive is relevant there. The argument being made there is not about the danger that JKR poses - it is about the beliefs, attitudes and behavior of people who are fans of Harry Potter and what kind of assumptions can reasonably be made about them. Those assumptions are not more or less legitimate depending on whether or not the creator of the work in question is alive. and honestly, I'm pretty sure that there are people who like Lovecraft specifically because they are racist, so.

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[(Anonymous)]

Fair points.

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[(Anonymous)]

Because it’s not about the Trans person for the most part. It’s about the people who want to control the behaviour of others and co opt victimhood.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nah.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh boy yes. So true. And you can really tell the difference between the people who are genuinely trans and those who just want to be able to call on their victim status by claiming a label.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, no.