[ SECRET POST #5636 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5636 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Met Gala]


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[Mr Ballen on Youtube]


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[Satoru Gojo from Jujutsu Kaisen]


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[Twisted Kaiju Theater]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, this is literally an exchange that happened.

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2623179.html?thread=1086216651#cmt1086216651

She said that it's "sad" that the "big lesbian ship of Sailor Moon" is a butch and a femme because "that isn't what a lesbian ship is to her." So yeah, I think the gays have a reason to be pissed, especially with how OP is now acting like she's a victim.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh please. You have no idea why the OP feels that way. People are so keen to start lynching people that they interpret everything in the worst faith possible. Ugh.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't matter why. The moment you say a lesbian ship doesn't count because one is remotely masc, you're a fucking homophobic piece of shit. Quit defending the homophobe.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
It does matter WHY and if you seriously think it doesn't you have a big problem.
I hope you never ever do a mistake in your life if you're surrounded by people that think just like you.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mistakenly say that butch lesbians don't count as lesbians and say an inherently gay ship is actually straight (Seiya and Usagi), dingus. She was corrected. FOR LITERAL HOURS. And NONE of it stuck. She doesn't get the benefit of the doubt any more.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you just explained yourself really poorly. Regardless, someone having a different opinion to you does not make them automatically evil. Your attitude on the other hand is the stuff lynch mobs were made of.

[(Anonymous)]

Their opinion is homophobic. Full stop. Quit sucking her clit.

[(Anonymous)]

OP JUST MADE A POST APOLOGIZING FOR SAYING THAT AND THAT THEY DIDN'T MEAN THAT OMG
This is literally the post you're replying to. OP is (clumsily) apologizing for saying hurtful stuff.

And you're on a high horse if you seriously believe that in all your years on earth you have never said anything remotely bigoted to anyone ever. You're all pure and saint and therefore you can continue citing OP's words with no context and misinterpreting them with no guilt. Please, proceed.

[(Anonymous)]

Clumsy doesn't begin to cover it. They were told for hours what they did wrong. Hours. And this post is a fauxpology of them then whining and whinging that they're the REAL victim. So no, apology not accepted when they go, "Teehee I'm ESL" as a fucking excuse.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't have to accept their apology. No one said you have to accept their apology.

[(Anonymous)]

I said it twice in the original topic and will say it again here.

To me, as I see it, a lesbian ship has two people who identify as women regardless of presentation.

REGARDLESS of gender presentation or on what level they identify as women or anything.

A trans male does not identify as a woman, thus, it's not a lesbian ship to me. I did say I wasn't going into the merit of NB because that was far beyond the point, it was just a "nice to know Naoko Takeuchi did not shy away at least" thing. FOR ENTIRELY PERSONAL REASONS. And IF (hypothetical) you got annoyed as a NB lesbian at that ... go ahead? That's on you. But stop saying I said things I never said.

OP again

[(Anonymous)]

And if you want to KNOW my PERSONAL reasons.

It's because we are talking about a work with maybe 50+ canon straight couples/flings/etc. , 2 to 8 gay ones depending on how you see it, and ALL (the entirety) of them has one character who presents masculine and another who presents feminine. HaruMichi is one, KunZoi is another, even Fisheye and the victim of the day, (Usagi and Minako's one-sided fling on Haruka while they thought she was male etc.) and if it's not like that, then it's anything - ANYTHING, ANYTHING! - BUT a canon fling/ship/whatever (even Seiya/Usagi if you want to talk about it, since the manga, where Seiya doesn't present masculine, "automatically" has NO Seiya/Usagi).

Personally I didn't feel represented as a kid by it and still don't, and perhaps this IS why I like Michiru since she is the ONE Stereotypically Feminine character in Sailor Moon who is into (at least one) girl(s). It's a PERSONAL matter of representation. It has FUCKING NOTHING to do to how I feel about REAL people for God's sake. I was trying to talk about CHARACTERS and people jumped to conclusions.

OP yet again

[(Anonymous)]

And (shit, haha look at me getting mad and unable to word shit again!) since HaruMichi is canonically based on Takarazuka, WHICH I DID NOT KNOW, BUT IT FELT TO ME LIKE THAT, and we are talking about 90s shoujo where couples who looked visually/aesthetically (IT'S 2D CHARACTERS! IT'S NOT ANDROGYNOUS REAL PEOPLE! DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?) like male/female (bishounen/bishoujo whatever you will) couples regardless of actual genders (male/female, male/male, or female/female whatever) and that was the predominant visual stereotype in shoujo therefore the most palatable one to 90s shoujo audiences, it feels to me like any Sailor Moon gay couple HAS to follow that pattern or else it can be ANYTHING BUT CANON. And I. Personally. I, myself. Do not vibe with that.

It was really such a minor personal point. And I liked to know that Takeuchi did not shy away from saying "uhh no they ARE lesbians" recently to a Western audience, because of how Western people talk about gender some people had the trans male Haruka headcanon and I could see why. She could have given the Shrug of God but she did not. So it was also a minor point to be ":)" about. That was it.

But apparently some of you hate polite feminine presenting people anyway, since we are all uwu babygirls - what was it again, fuckwad?