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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-21 05:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #5646 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
imagine if people could talk about chinese content creators without immediately accusing them of being government plants. there's tons of rural living channels romanticizing that kind of life in all kinds of countries, that is because people are into it

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
She is getting promoted as a cultural ambassador by the government (likely to get young people to return to rural communities). That doesn't mean she's fake, and it doesn't mean she shares all of the government's positions but it does mean the government is involved to a certain extent.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
+1

She's not a plant, but it is true that she is being promoted by the CCP.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC Swedish YouTuber/Instagrammer Jonna Jinton was recently awarded directly by the monarchy for her cultural contributions, but I've never seen anyone talk about her content the way they talk about Li Ziqi's.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Because China bad.

But more sincerely, unless you yourself are living there, I find that it's more useful to be cognizant of and wary about propaganda from your own government, as some of it might actually affect your life. No matter how terrible it all is, you as a foreigner living in another country will never have any measurable impact on what the Chinese government does to its people.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The difference might be that Sweden has a very, very different type of government and Jonna Jinton wouldn't suddenly "disappear" should she promote the "wrong" type of cultural heritage.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, but it is only in china we call it propaganda. if we heard that in, say, japan the government promoted someone who shares content about traditional ways of preparing food or dyeing clothes we wouldn't feel it was necessary to mention it when discussing their channel, because like, duh, countries want to preserve and promote their culture.

like im not saying the ccp is above propaganda, it's just that anything portraying china in a positive light gets labeled propaganda and that's really a bit fucked

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, how about we talk again when Japan has re-education camps you get sent to if you have the wrong religion, speak out against corruption, minority rights or police brutality or get sexually assaulted by the wrong person.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
+1,000,000

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Fucking this! Unless we’re talking about Imperial Japan, which nobody is rn, Japan and China aren’t comparable in this day and age.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The Japanese government (like basically all governments) certainly has its problems with its treatment of minorities, but it's also not currently in the process of committing cultural genocide on parts of the country that don't fit in with a certain view of what the country should be. People who want to celebrate Ryuukyuu or Ainu traditions and language can do so without fear of being arrested. If these were videos promoting an idyllic view of Tibetan nomadic life, which is one of those cultures the Chinese government is trying to stomp out by forcibly relocating people and suppressing their language and religion, she would not be treated the same way by the government.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
ok and?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
'okay and?'

OKAY AND that means there's a huge decking difference, and there are good valid reasons people talk about China this way rather than hur dur racism.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
but you're not talking about china, you're talking about a chinese person. hurr durr

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you know that China’s made of people?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I don’t think ayrt knows anything. They’re just running on bullshit and calling it “playing devils advocate”.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well YOU may only call it that if it involves China. I've seen plenty of calls on other places.