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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-22 06:15 pm

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What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Inspired by today's Secret #4.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hurt/comfort, rape, incest.

'Enjoy' isn't quite the right word though. I read them for the emotional fall out around those things. I have found them very cathartic at various stages of my life, and dark fic has helped me work through a lot of my own past trauma.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, I’ve always been a sucker for these in fic!

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
there are some absolutely problematic jokes and storylines in Family Guy and American Dad that I think are funny as shit - as a member of the very demographic who should be pissed off by it. I am trans and the entire thing with Quagmire's trans parent is actually fun - and even though they have some jokes at Ida's expense, she was one of the first actual trans characters with a recurring role in a primetime adult animation sitcom. Plus, she gets to have input on other issues such as the military's role in Iraq, that isn't about her transness.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The Spirit Hunter franchise has its fair share of what-the-fuckery. Highly recommended. Shoutout to that one scene in particular when the one cute boy literally eats the other cute boy. And that other scene when the cute girl gets pregnant and births baby turtles out from her mouth. Oh, and all the scenes with the bees. The bees! We can't forget about the bees and their human hives.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
SA
Oh, I forgot to add. The Spirit Hunter series is potentially problematic and not just passingly creepy because the horror of the series is absolutely fetishized - there is a definite horniness behind the myriad of ways everyone ends up dying. Heh.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Any scene (often devised with horny teenagers in mind) where two characters of the villain/dark/goth/vampire/problematic variety get sadomasochistic with eachother makes me go "wow, that's horrible, very problematic *eats popcorn* where can I get more of that?"
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Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

[personal profile] philstar22 2022-06-23 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yup.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
The song by the racist mushrooms from The Elm-Chanted Forest movie.
https://youtu.be/teUcshR14h0
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Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

[personal profile] philstar22 2022-06-23 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Torture scenes, mostly in written form, but occasionally in tv/film too if not too graphic. I like what it does to characterization when characters go through it. I love it when heroic characters allow it to happen or put themselves in situations knowing it will happen in order to do their hero thing and/or to protect others.

Lots of sexist sex scenes/women's costumes because I'm bi and damn it, my sex drive doesn't turn off just because I want it to.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can't think of specific examples rn, but I enjoy the whole "stalking for love" trope, where one character invades the other character's privacy because they feel obsessively protective of them. I don't enjoy it if they're doing it to try to get involved with the object of their affection, or if they're spying on them for the purpose of perving on them, though. It only works for me if their motive is obsessive, misguided protectiveness. And then also, they can't be controlling. The whole point of the stalking, in a way, is that the character feels a desperate need to protect their LI, but they are extremely aware that they don't have any control over them, so instead they shape their own behavior around keeping the LI safe.

Obviously IRL this is restraining-order behavior, and not remotely romantic or sexy.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Buffy and Spike's entire relationship in S6 (up to That Scene in Seeing Red, at which point all the twisted, guilty sexiness abruptly vanishes--which I definitely think was the point). Teen me was obSESSED. Adult me is more chill, but still sees the appeal.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Basically everything in the two Charlie's Angels movies that have Cameron Diaz, et. al. in them. But especially the stripping scene they do with the Pussycat Dolls in Full Throttle. Problematic as heck, but so hot.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
DA
Speaking of Charlie's Angels, Bitch Slap (2009) is problematic on multiple fronts but it's also really sexy at times (especially when the girls physically bully Gage).

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
That scene is THE scene that made me realise I'm not. Holy hell but it's hot.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hell yes! I legitimately love these movies, especially the first, and scenes like these are some of the reasons why! The other reasons are the cheesiness, the badass fights, and the lead actresses being awesome!

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I love me some rape, incest too, but any flavor of rape is so delicious to me idk. I love fucked up shit and I just am too old and fandomed out to care.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Stripper battle physics, especially featuring male characters. Bless Calidrius Blaze.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
80% of my fave ships can be summarized as "50-something+ male kidnapper/20-something kidnapee," with the remaining 20% involving stalking, extremely manipulative lying, and/or teacher/student. My favorite and most long-standing ship checks off all of the above.

As for specifics, shout out to "hair sniffing of captive by captor while embracing her from behind."

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/c8/e6/e3c8e6c7d0bbc0be147c255b38189d26.jpg

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31900000/RumBelle-deleted-scene-once-upon-a-time-31999953-331-190.gif

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Power imbalance ships such as royal/servant or god/devotee. I don't care if the power imbalance is "called out" in the text, but I do like it when the more powerful character aggressively pulls rank when the two fight.

Re: What specific 'potentially problematic' scenes in fiction did you enjoy?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-23 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
A scene in one of my fandoms where a fan favorite woobie is hurt physically and mentally by one of the villains. It's considered problematic because the character's fans have decided they're "coded" several types of identity that it's problematic to depict violence towards, and think the writer masterminded all that "coding" just to be able to torture a mentally ill neurodivergent gay teenager.

I enjoy the scene because I hate the character and I hate the character because they have fans like that.