[ SECRET POST #5678 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5678 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The whole point of true crime is glamorizing and exploiting tragedy. It's very pot kettle of you to be uncomfortable with people being open/talk about picking favourites when you yourself actively enjoy and seek out that same content. It's a fandom like everything else, and you are willingly a part of it.

[(Anonymous)]

"The whole point of true crime is glamorizing and exploiting tragedy."

Disagree. A lot of it can be like that, of course. But there's absolutely true crime content that tries to stick to just reporting the known facts of the case without romanticizing or glamorizing it.

It's very pot kettle of you to be uncomfortable with people being open/talk about picking favourites when you yourself actively enjoy and seek out that same content.

Nah. Not everyone enjoys fandom in the same way, even when they're in the same fandom. The people who watch Supernatural and enjoy it aren't cut from the same cloth as the tinhatters who think the stars are in a secret relationship IRL and send hatemail to their wives. It's not rational or reasonable to tar everyone with the same brush just because they like the same media.

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ayrt

No. We aren't talking about the news, we're talking about a media broadcast that has to consider product, revenue, and ratings. They don't/cannot pick up some local murderer encyclopedia, they need sources, images, actor, and reference. The simple fact they have to sort through the deaths of numerous real life people and then ponder and consider which one they should feature on their next release is objectifying as all hell. It's meant for entertainment- they glorify, glamorize, romanticize, and absolutely exploit these people.


Also, it's funny you specifically chose a fandom who purposefully antagonize and harass innocent people due to their own delusional self-interest. Like what do you think true crime is exactly? How many murders do you actually believe have been identified or brought to justice due to the rehearsed lines they use to keep peoples interest? This is real life, these are real people, these are families who have died. The same way an actors partner or a persons role should not affect their personal lives, a persons tragedy should never be made into casual entertainment. There is a line, absolutely, but that line is bringing fiction into reality with a harmful result. True crime crosses that line by existence in itself, and you'd be a damned fool to believe that everyone traumatized by that crime and every line they recreate is inherently true or asked or considered by those who lost a loved one that day.

Dramatizations, based on true stories, and even documentaries, are all allowed to be legally false as they are all interpretations by nature. So forgive me when I question the integrity of people who make a profit out of false hopes and specifically brutal deaths. Let alone clock someone for being squeamish in the face of what they signed up for.

[(Anonymous)]

"No. We aren't talking about the news, we're talking about a media broadcast that has to consider product, revenue, and ratings. They don't/cannot pick up some local murderer encyclopedia, they need sources, images, actor, and reference."

You've got a very limited scope of what "true crime media" entails, and it's coloring your view of the entire genre and its fandom. As I said, you won't find me disagreeing that there's plenty of media out there like that - that was the point of my secret. But you cannot tar the entire genre with the same brush. That's simply not logical or accurate, just like it wouldn't be logical or accurate to do that with ANY fandom.

"Also, it's funny you specifically chose a fandom who purposefully antagonize and harass innocent people due to their own delusional self-interest."

That's an example of what I'm talking about - you're tarring an entire fandom with the same brush. There are people who watch the show and enjoy it, but do not engage in those types of behaviors. Acting like they don't exist is not logical. It's not accurate. Are you familiar with the term "vocal minority"? It's easy to see a vocal minority in action and make the mistake of thinking they're representative of the group as a whole. They are not.

"True crime crosses that line by existence in itself, and you'd be a damned fool to believe that everyone traumatized by that crime and every line they recreate is inherently true or asked or considered by those who lost a loved one that day."

Yes, I'd be a damned fool if I believed that. But I don't. Nowhere did I state anything that's even close to suggesting I believed that true crime is always and forever a 100% accurate depiction of events. The fact that you're trying so very hard to put those words into my mouth suggests that you're bringing a great deal of baggage and a huge chip on your shoulder into this discussion suggests that you're more interested in debating some imaginary opponent who exists elsewhere besides this thread vs. me, the person who's actually here and not saying those things.

"Dramatizations, based on true stories, and even documentaries, are all allowed to be legally false as they are all interpretations by nature. So forgive me when I question the integrity of people who make a profit out of false hopes and specifically brutal deaths. Let alone clock someone for being squeamish in the face of what they signed up for."

As I said earlier, it seems like you've got a fairly limited idea of what true crime media entails, and that's coloring your views on it. It doesn't seem like a great approach to know very little about the genre you're criticizing, but I can see you feel very strongly about this.

What doesn't make sense is the way you act like there's no such thing as degrees of interest in a given subject, so anyone who's interested in Subject A is in the same category as all the people who exhibit the worst fandom behavior. This is a common viewpoint of people who don't get out of fandom much. They make the mistake of equating ALL fan-related activity as being just like the most dramatic, awful examples of it they see on social media, etc. But that's not the case. It's not the case for ANY interest. There are always people who have an unhealthy interest in fandom and take that interest to excessive levels. And there are people who don't. That's just reality.

I won't suggest that you expand your knowledge and experience with true crime, since that's clearly not going to mesh with your interests. I'm not even sure if it'll comfort you to know that while there are people who are interested in true crime as a genre, they do NOT delight in gory details and exploitative media. There is true crime media that has the hope of sharing the stories of the victims or finding answers for their families, or spreading awareness for crimes that haven't received a proper investigation because of reasons like racism, poverty, etc.

Or... maybe you'll be happier not believing or accepting any of that because it might challenge your current negative view about true crime and the people who watch it. That's unfortunate, but it's your choice, even if it clearly makes you unhappy.