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⌈ Secret Post #5708 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

11. https://i.imgur.com/9kPBO9T.png

[(Anonymous)]

I approve of this message and wish to sign up to your newsletter 🏴‍☠️

[(Anonymous)]

And for creators who are still alive? Why shouldn't they be able to get paid for their work?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with OP (my preferred copyright term would be life-of-creator + 20) but a 20 year copyright does still allow creators to monetize their work for 20 years.

[(Anonymous)]

Life + 20 is better, but creators still deserve better, considering how shaky their industries are.

[(Anonymous)]

Deserve better than life + 20? I don't agree. I think there's a clear-cut interest in making work public domain. Excessive copyright has real tangible negative effects. And I just don't think that the interest of an author after life + 20 is sufficiently robust to outweigh that.

Moreover: if you want to improve the entertainment industry, you have ways to do that besides just copyright policy. Copyright policy can't and shouldn't be used to remedy every shitty thing about the entertainment industry. For example vigorous antitrust and labor action would probably be much more effective in preserving the interests of creators than overwhelmingly long copyright terms.

[(Anonymous)]

You can still monetize after 20 years, just not exclusively. People sell books in the public domain all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like they're getting paid for their work now. See HBO BS.

[(Anonymous)]

One form of shittiness does not justify another.

[(Anonymous)]

20 years guaranteed is better than none at all. I don't get paid royalties on my work even though it's the foundation for work others do and continues to make money for my company for years down the line. 20 years is fine, jfc.

[feotakahari]

So people can do NEW things with that work. Reinterpret it and modify it, like we do with fairy tales and Shakespeare.

[(Anonymous)]

And why is that an inherent right? Shakespeare's long dead. Rework his material. Someone who published a novel in 1987 can be very much alive and need that money to live. If people want to rework things that are modern, ask for permission and pay for rights. Music industry does it all the time.

[feotakahari]

That’s why Brutal Legend released as about two-thirds of a game. As a game about metal music, they wanted to have a metal soundtrack. The singers were mostly enthusiastic, but dealing with the people who actually held the rights by then ate up their budget. And that was on a moderately large studio budget! You can’t afford that as a solo developer.

For whatever reason, the way these things work in our society is different for art than for other things. I go to work and get payment for my work, and then the payment is done and I have to go to work again. I don’t get any more pay even if my previous work continues to be useful. I’m not trying to change this distinction for art, because there’s no urgent reason it needs to change. But by pointing out how artificial the distinction is, I can at least argue for narrowing the scope a bit. I mean, if your book is still selling after twenty years, you can probably write another good book within that timespan and get paid for that as well.

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Those two things are from creators who are long, long dead. And in reality creators really don't get paid all that well from their IP's unless they get lucky enough to be hugely successful, you can haggle over copyright stuff when they're dead(and if they didn't leave it to their family), but for god's sake let them make whatever money they can while they're alive.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I wish some of these commenters would go read Twitter threads by actual living authors about how much they make in royalties, etc. So many still have full-time jobs. It's not some glamorous existence for most.

[philstar22]

Personally I think they should remain for the life of the creator, but copyrights should end with creator death.

[(Anonymous)]

That would encourage murder.

[(Anonymous)]

come on

[(Anonymous)]

lmao

[(Anonymous)]

I think it would discourage murder - most murders are done by people close to the victim, and if you kill the author whose copyright brings in money, the money is over.

Leaving this here:

[feotakahari]

https://sule-skerry.tumblr.com/post/662770055185088512/this-thread-has-been-about-home-viewing-but-id

“Repertory series are one of the things people come to indie theaters for, plus doing a screening of an older blockbuster like Indiana Jones can help keep the doors open for the first run of a documentary about a Nepalese cable car line (actual film we showed, it was awesome). And it's more fun for YOU, the viewer, to be able to see a film you know and love on a big screen with popcorn and snacks and a room full of people who are just as hyped as you are to watch it.

“But Disney wants you to subscribe instead.”

Re: Leaving this here:

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, fine, but also going to the cinema is fucking expensive, full of COVID, and involves travel. I'd much rather subscribe (and/or pirate).

Re: Leaving this here:

[(Anonymous)]

Also cinemas crank the sound up WAY TOO FUCKING LOUD and I can't enjoy it when I'm constantly having to put earplugs in for the loud scenes and then take them back out for the quiet ones.

Fuck that, I'm gonna watch shit at home where I have full control over the volume and don't risk giving myself a migraine.

[(Anonymous)]

I think corporate copyright should be 20 years, and individual creator copyright should be life of the author + 20 years. Shorten the amount of time until authors can take their rights back to 20 years, too--iirc it's currently 30.