[ SECRET POST #5747 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5747 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Halt and Catch Fire]



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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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[According to Jim]


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11. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things Season 4]




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12. [SPOILERS for The Wishing Stone]




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13. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]








































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #822.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

She has used her Twitter platform to directly support transphobic businesses and politics.

She frequently mocks medically-inclusive language (ie "people with uteruses" vs "women").

She is a big fan of using trans women as scare tactics--that they're just here to rape and abuse us poor helpless cis women. This came up directly in her blog post years ago.

It's not a giant mystery--it's a pattern. And yeah, some things are more vague, but as a comparison, it's like saying "we should protect the children" when discussing gay rights; it's outright making the leap that gay people are threats to children without having to SAY it, and now she's capitalizing on "but I didn't SAY it".

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for actually trying to break it down and be specific. My main problem with what you've said is that the line for 'transphobic' is blurred by the social media outrage machine and frequently used in insane ways. So just telling me she's supported transphobic businesses, or that she uses scare tactics doesn't really mean much without more info. I would very happily read an analysis, but the only ones I can find are ones that do the exact same thing- claim transphobia but can't give actual examples.

[(Anonymous)]

FYI the reason that people don't want to engage with you is because they don't think you're arguing in good faith. At least I know that's true for me.

[(Anonymous)]

There are several requests for more info in this thread and only one comment that actually provides specifics instead of generalisations, or saying 'fuck off'

[(Anonymous)]

Because the conversation started off with saying that there are, in fact, no specifics and that the only objection people have to JKR is misogyny, and also another post in the thread saying that people's concerns about trans charities grooming teens are legitimate and substantive and deserved to be heard out

And when people pushed back on that, *then* you started talking about how you were just genuinely concerned about looking for the evidence in an unbiased and reasonable way

[(Anonymous)]

It's an unfortunate form of exhaustion, imo. After years of JK's behavior, a lot of people who have been following it are tired of having to see it again and again. Whereas for people who haven't been seeing it for years, the evidence doesn't seem like much. This is why and how "dogwhistling" works; if you only say things that toe the line, the people frustrated at you end up looking crazy, because they're the only ones who "hear" it.

That being said, I agree it would be more helpful for people to maintain good faith wherever possible, with less "fuck offs" and "you're just making it up" all around.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT here's a link with more details about businesses she's supported and what THEY in turn openly support: https://www.insider.com/jk-rowling-terf-online-store-selling-anti-trans-merch-2020-9

Here's her tweet outright mocking medically inclusive language: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1269382518362509313?lang=en (it affects no one, actually, to describe medical issues with medical language. If this is information for people with uteruses, anyone and everyone who happens to have a uterus, regardless of gender, should pay attention. Heck, even cis women may not have uteruses. Things like this actually allow for better care and more open access to those who need it, including trans men.)

And in her article here-- https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/ --while she obviously expresses a lot of sympathy in the right places, she still equates "biologically male" with "dangerous", asserts that trans men are misguided lesbians (as a lesbian, I am very familiar with this "concern" and I recommend people to read Leslie Feinburg for more actual queer-led discussion on this issue), and asserts that opening doors to transwomen puts "natal women" at risk, because the Awful Biologically Male Perverts will lie to sneak in and attack.

Again, I want to point out that last one, because I've heard the "protect women from male violence" line. I understand where that fear comes from! I do! However, it is the equivalent of the same arguments that forbid gay couples from adopting children--that the act of being queer itself increases the risk of threat. If you would agree that bans on gay adoptions are homophobic, then the "trans people are hiding sexual predators" is transphobic.

If you're still willing to listen, I'll add this: internet echo chambers and screaming matches are awful. I personally don't think anyone should be on Twitter, for all the bullshit it engenders. However, to be more level-headed, the various "-phobias" and "-isms" should, in my opinion, not be seen as a permanent brand on one's forehead, but a post-it note added to unkind behavior, to be pointed out and examined and changed. To that end, I'm not saying that JK Rowling is Transphobic And Therefore Satan. I'm saying that JK Rowling has done and said transphobic things.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, seriously. I will read these tonight.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, regarding your last note - I completely agree. The screaming matches just enforce division and allows no space for evolution. It just makes everything worse.

[(Anonymous)]

"However, to be more level-headed, the various "-phobias" and "-isms" should, in my opinion, not be seen as a permanent brand on one's forehead, but a post-it note added to unkind behavior, to be pointed out and examined and changed."

this is the modern internet though, where anyone who exhibits behaviours consistent with any of those things is to be permanently banished to the outside of one's safe space, and anyone who claims to have changed or wanted to change is a liar and a hypocrite (and can be proved to be a hypocrite with a previous twitter career's full of evidence against them)

i agree, i don't think anyone should be on twitter and internet echo chambers are rubbish, but last-word-ism followed by disengagement is just how it's done these days

[(Anonymous)]

And that's a fault of the greater internet, not the fault of those hurt the bigotry itself. It's an unfortunate ouroboros. I just think it's best for both "sides" to keep that in mind, even if it doesn't do much good at present.

[(Anonymous)]

She called a woman heroic when that woman said all trans women as doing the equivalent of blackface and if that isn't transphobic I don't know what you consider transphobic and we're done here.

[(Anonymous)]

But...it IS the equivalent of blackface. You wouldn't be questioning my lived experience now, would you, hmm?

[(Anonymous)]

I like that you guys post this stuff and then also pretend to be totally sincere and interested in a good-faith discussion of the issues

There is simply no way that this is a good-faith post

[(Anonymous)]

Trolling in a thread where people are actually attempting civility and information is not a good look for you.

[(Anonymous)]

"Being trans is blackface but for women"

Is this your stance

Is this your fucking stance