[ SECRET POST #5752 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5752 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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07. https://i.imgur.com/uttnMV6.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I see what you did bear.

[(Anonymous)]

Comic books and graphic novels aren't the same thing though.

You sound annoying.

[(Anonymous)]

Close enough for government work

Isn't there a genuine literary distinction?

[(Anonymous)]

Like a graphic novel is complete story, the same as a text-based novel, just using images to tell part of the story. And a comic book is one part of larger serialized story.

Re: Isn't there a genuine literary distinction?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but that's a distinction that doesn't matter very much in most contexts. So it's still confusing if that's the definition that you're using and you insist on drawing a hard and fast line between the two things.

Re: Isn't there a genuine literary distinction?

[(Anonymous)]

Originally, a comic book was a serial release and you could later get a collected edition. A graphic novel was a single, longer-form entire story. There was some overlap in that some comics (e.g. Watchmen) were published chapter by chapter but were intended and mostly read as a graphic novel, but you can say the same thing about Dickens' novels. However, the publication of Sandman and other similar works from Vertigo started to blur this line in the late 80s/early 90s, and since then the line has been very wobbly.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a silly secret, but a very cute image choice to illustrate it!

[tabaqui]

Okayfine.

[(Anonymous)]

Ha ha, I've said something like that here and there was similar reaction. There are differences, some comics really are novels with a lot of pictures in them. But people using graphic novels like they are not-like-other-girls who read *gasp* comics annoy me.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel bad about it, but at the same time I'm one of those that will use both sets of words because I work in a library and you can check out the graphic novels (as in, 'a collection of several comics relating to a single storyline, bound in book format') but not the comics (single issues). Comics have to stay in the building.

I mean. The words mean different things?

[(Anonymous)]

I think technically, books that are collected single issues are collections, not graphic novels; graphic novels are things that are originally conceived and published as a book-sized volume.

But also, when a lot of people say "graphic novels", what they actually mean is "comic books that are good". Which is silly, and also has nothing to do with the actual meaning of the term.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT
Exactly! People too often use this term to distance themselves from comics

[(Anonymous)]

I can outpretentious that. I hate when people call a fiction book a novel. As in "I'm reading a novel called ABC about xyz." Unless there's a special reason it might be mistaken for something else, just call it a book.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you feel that way?

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't "novel" a more specific term for "book"?

I'm ESL, but for my understanding: novel, novella, essay, collection of poems, anthology, non-fiction, fiction, etc are all definitions of the term broader BOOK. If someone say to me "I'm reading a novel" I already know more or less what kind of book they're reading. I don't need them to tell me it's not a short story or a fictional book (which is longer than saying simply novel) nor that it isn't a self helf book or an essay. It's a novel.
How is that pretentious? I honestly don't get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you are right, but the commentor was joking.

[(Anonymous)]

Graphic novels are just the name comicbooks use when they are marketing to people who are embarrassed to say they read comic books.

[(Anonymous)]

Hope you also hate people who call a short story a short story and a novel a novel, then! How about people who don't also call manga a comic? You hate them too?

[(Anonymous)]

>>How about people who don't also call manga a comic? You hate them too?
This is the real question IMHO.