[ SECRET POST #5775 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5775 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Murderbot Chronicles]


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[Witchfinder General]


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[The Mermaid Princess's Guilty Meal]


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[Arknights]


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11. [SPOILERS for The Rings of Power]




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12. [SPOILERS for Person of Interest]




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13. [SPOILERS for Mary Skelter 2]




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14. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]




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15. [WARNING for discussion of rape(-revenge films? this is here just in case)]































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #826.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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Vampira's creator filed a lawsuit about that and lost.

From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maila_Nurmi#Later_years
"In 1981, Nurmi was asked by KHJ-TV to revive her Vampira character for television. She worked closely with the producers of the new show and was to get an executive producer credit, but eventually left the project over creative differences. According to Nurmi, it was because the station cast comedic actress Cassandra Peterson in the part without consulting her. "They eventually called me in to sign a contract and she was there", Nurmi told Bizarre magazine in 2005. "They had hired her without asking me."[24]

Nurmi worked on the project for a short time, but quit when the producers would not hire Lola Falana to play Vampira. The station sent out a casting call, and Peterson auditioned and won the role.[citation needed]

Unable to continue using the name Vampira, the show was abruptly renamed Elvira's Movie Macabre with Peterson playing the titular host. Nurmi soon filed a lawsuit against Peterson. The court eventually ruled in favor of Peterson, holding that "likeness means actual representation of another person's appearance, and not simply close resemblance." Peterson claimed that Elvira was nothing like Vampira aside from the basic design of the black dress and black hair. Nurmi claimed that the entire Elvira persona, which included comedic dialogue and intentionally bad graveyard puns, infringed on her creation's "distinctive dark dress, horror movie props, and...special personality."[25] Nurmi herself claimed that Vampira's image was in part based on the Charles Addams The New Yorker cartoon character Morticia Addams, though she told Boxoffice magazine in 1994 that she had intentionally deviated from Addams' mute and flat-chested creation, making her own TV character "campier and sexier" to avoid plagiarizing Addams' idea.[26] "

[(Anonymous)]

Possibly, but it's also inevitable that everyone has some level of misogyny in them due to our socialization, and I think having a preference for m/m is the most harmless way to manifest that misogyny. In the real world I put my mouth and money into supporting women and have amazing female friends, and frankly find the fact that I'm supposed to relate to some of the so-called awesome female characters y'all defend or see my friends in them an insult to us. But hey, if my preference for m/m is in fact that bit of misogyny in me taking form, I think I'm doing pretty good and have no desire to change it.

This is the conclusion I've reached from listening to the advice to examine my preferences and spending years of my life in fandom doing just that.

[(Anonymous)]

PS from SA:

You know where I've also concluded that bit of misogyny manifests in girls who accuse m/m fans of having internalized misogyny? That would be "I love fic about female characters! Look at me, I'm Not Like Other Girls! I'm special!" Like the responses to this secret.

me too me too

[(Anonymous)]

I was so disappointed that Taraji left but I understood why her career required it. OTOH, Carter dying just as she and John were getting intimate??? KILLED ME. That scene with the bullet? Carter wearing John's black and white outfit and kicking ass?? Ugh I have to go rewatch.

Thanks for revisiting my rage, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm still genuinely angry about how they handled trish post-season one of this show. there's a way they could have handled the hellcat storyline without doing...what they did, which felt cruel to both trish and jessica for no reason except to prove...i don't know, that jessica's the only one equipped to survive abuse, i guess? i hated it. season one of that show was so good but i genuinely struggled to get through seasons two and three.

[(Anonymous)]

And I shall carry on the grudge on Maila Nurmi's behalf </3

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of ship it, but there's just something missing in their chemistry for me. I can't really put my finger on it. Maybe it's the pacing? It's a shame, because I really liked that line about her binding him to the light. Usually I'm all over that.

[dantesspirit]

When I first saw this movie, right after it came out, it was terrifying. I was a kid.

So, yeah, when it came out, it was a good horror flick.

Just because it no longer holds up to today's standards, doesn't mean it's a horrible movie.

In short, let people be terrified of things, Nonny.

[dantesspirit]

When they killed off Taraji P. Henson's char was when we stopped watching.

[(Anonymous)]

This

[(Anonymous)]

All of this is me as well

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I’d love to have had your experience, because your experience doesn’t represent my long-spent experience of witnessing what Ayrt is talking about. Utena and Madoka might be examples you’re right about, although Utena still does have a lot of Touga/Saionji shippers, and they were very enthusiastic in the 2000s. Which is fine, but does still contribute to AYRT’s point. And Madoka isn’t a great example imo, because there really is no m/m options that don’t involve genderswaps. AYRT’s example of Simoun is way more apt, because it’s ostensibly a GL anime where everyone is AFAB and gets to choose whether to live as a man or a woman after a certain age. And not only does it not do a great job at being a GL/yuri show at times, but it’s fandom did have a not insignificant amount of people who only cared about the tiny m/m possibilities rather than the more numerous f/f, or even the f/m potential ships.

And Sailor Moon fandom focused on HaruMichi more than het romance? That is so far from my experience, but I would love for it to have been true for me. Ime the largest ships were definitely MamoruUsagi vs. SeiyaUsagi. Plus, a good amount of Senshi-Shitennou ships, and Kunzite/Zoicite. HaruMichi was definitely very popular, but it wasn’t the juggernaut ship in my fandom experience from the 90s-2000s. The Sailor Moon fandom of the 2010s to now is different from then in that it is much more of a place for f/f shipping, with HaruMichi rising to the top as one of the most popular ships, and many other f/f ships that had always been around in the hearts of their fans have become larger and significant ships. This is a good change, and I couldn’t be happier for it considering HaruMichi and Minako/Rei are my favorite Sailor Moon ships.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a really weird take, and it makes no sense.

You really think it makes you look good when you make fun of people you disagree with, and accuse them of misogyny because they like to...read about female characters? “I’m not like other girls, I like female characters”? That’s not what being an NLOG is. Just accusing someone of being an NLOG means nothing if there’s no societal precedence for the behavior beyond your own anecdotal experience, especially if the behavior of the person you’re calling an NLOG is actually supportive of other women.

And claiming it’s misogyny to like to read about or to appreciate female characters is disingenuous. Your last post had you specifically say that you don’t think the female characters people like are actually good, even though you have no idea what characters are being thought of in this instance. This is just transparently your bias talking. You’re unintentionally demonstrating the points of the anon who says m/m only shippers frequently embody some internalized misogyny, because they claim it’s because the female characters aren’t written well enough, but they will never be written well enough for you. Several anons have said trying to justify why you only like m/m besides just finding it the most personally appealing is where the misogyny usually kicks in, and you showed that. And you say you’re proud of that and don’t mind having that internalized misogyny, but you’re acting way too defensive for that to be true. You started with “I’m fine with only liking m/m, and the female characters aren’t that good anyways”, and then jump to “Actually, it’s the people that like reading about female characters, especially f/f shippers, that are the REAL misogynists!”. You’ve given nothing to support that point of view, so it doesn’t make any sense, and just shows your hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. They have an embarrassing lack of self-awareness.

Re: Will someone do a secrets you're too lazy to make thread?

[(Anonymous)]

That’s because you had no intention of making the secrets yourself, and didn’t communicate that. Nobody got pissy, that is all you and your projection. All anyone did was ask if you planned to make the secrets, and inform you that that’s the purpose of “Secrets you don’t want to make/too lazy to make threads”, for secret makers to get some secrets to make. But since you never said you would not be making them when it was relevant, no secret makers wanted to poach a secret. And then you said you wouldn’t make them, but it didn’t matter because it was already only a couple of days away from the regular secrets you don’t want to make thread.

And now you’re lying or being ignorant in saying it’s been “awhile” since the last thread when it wasn’t. So someone calmly tells you to wait for the regular thread in a couple of days. And you throw a hissy fit about it and announce your exit when nobody asked. While also accusing everyone but yourself of being pissy, which is rich, and admitting you were the one who made the thread where you asked for the secrets but had no intention of making them. Which is a weird thing to want to willingly admit to.