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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-01 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #5779 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5779 ⌋

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Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-01 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I could understand people doing the opposite (tagging RPF as just the characters those actors play), but mistaking or pretending the characters for RPF is odd.

My thought/vent is that I don't even watch Heartstopper, but I've been sad all day about one of the lead actors being harassed so much by the fans for "queerbaiting" that he felt forced to come out as bisexual. Dude's 18; I didn't even know I was bi until I was 25, and even then it took me several years of questioning to confidently say this is my sexuality. How can people demand that kind of certainty of a teenager? How can people demand that kind of certainty in the public eye? I had the time & space to figure my shit out without any prying eyes, and it was still weird and hard and scary for me. I can't imagine doing it with people I don't know tweeting me about it every single hour of the day. :/

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-01 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This whole thing is honestly enraging and shows just how badly fandom discourse shit has rotted peoples brains. Public figures don't owe us anything, and for the love of god real people can't queerbait in the way these moron fans are insisting he was doing.

But I hate the notion of considering real people 'representation' because they're fucking not, who the hell decided that was a thing????

I just hope he's okay and takes a huge break from twitter, no one needs to be forcibly outed, we haven't learned shit from the Lee Pace incident years ago.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-01 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't quite understand what happened (I don't watch the show either) but I get what you're saying. I'm in my 30s and figured it out a long time ago and I sometimes still feel weird about it because of worrying how people will react/what they'll think/if they'll judge me because of it/etc. and that's just the fairly small amount of people I deal with in my life. I can't imagine dealing with all of it as a public figure.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-01 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
we need to go back to the days when the worst fans could do was harass through letters rather than bombard actors on social media. I feel bad for young actors who get harassed (in these guy's cases) or young actresses who get creeps (Millie Bobby Brown)

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking hell, that makes me so angry. jfc.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
This! Personally, I didn't figure out my sexual orientation before my mid 20s either, and even after I could understand it well enough to tell myself "guess I am this label if I have to pick one" it isn't something I feel comfortable enough about to fight others over it, as I can't be sure if I will still feel the same tomorrow and I didn't come out to my family or some of my closest friends as I never felt the need and wouldn't want to deal with the hassle so... can't imagine being forced to come out to the world at 18 because you're just so tired of people accusing you of queerbaiting for holding hands with someone (?!). Just, wishing him all the best in his relentless strength and hoping everything turns out for the better.

In a more personal note I don't put my sexuality in my profiles either, so I have gone through this "queerbait! fetichist!" bullshit. Just *rolls eyes* frankly kids these days

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
JFC that's heartbreaking. And infuriating. What the hell is wrong with people.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
What the actual hell? I didn’t even have a name for my sexuality until I was in my twenties and, even though I’m in my thirties now, I’m still not totally comfortable coming out to people because I’m scared of how they’ll react. People are so freaking shitty. Hope that poor kid’s doing okay and has a good support network.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone is blaming puriteens and their "I'm not like those nasty straight bl fangirls, I like wholesome gay shows made by and starring real organic gays" philosophy for pushing him to come out. And that group is the worst. But I hate that we're pretending Heartstopper hasn't been shat on by older, experienced queers because it's too "safe" and "sanitized for mass straight audience consumption" and that this group always talks about how they can tell when a queer character is written by or played by a straight person. Now they're acting sympathetic to Kit like they didn't play a part in this too. I wish they'd get off their high horse and accept that just because a queer show isn't for them doesn't make it not queer enough.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly I wish everyone would just fucking chill and enjoy their gay media together, instead of trying to jump to conclusions about others' sexualities. Particularly if they enjoy said media but don't out themselves.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Both sides have their problems with thinking that because a piece of queer media isn't for them personally it means that it's 'not queer media' which is annoying as shit. I like both the cutesy, happy queer stuff and the more adult, sometimes fucked-up queer stuff. The whole point of getting more stories about us out there is that we can have both! That we can choose a little!! THIS IS A GOOD THING. But idiots on both sides instead are now valuing how 'queer' something is by whether or not they enjoyed it and my dudes, that's not how this works. Queer media is still queer even if you hate it.

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000

Re: Fandom thoughts/vents

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s completely awful that this happened to him, because the people who harassed him had no right to demand anything of him! Coming out should be up to the person doing the coming out, on their own terms, not because of entitled third parties. I myself didn’t even figure out my sexuality or gender identity until I was in my 20s, and it took longer still for me to be open to others about it.

However, that doesn’t mean that other people can’t figure out their identities and preferences from a younger age than we did. It’s still nobody else’s business though, and forced outing is beyond terrible!