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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-06 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #5784 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-11-07 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know anything about this particular scandal, nor a lot about idol culture. But I feel like blaming capitalism here doesn't quite take into account the power of public discourse/boycotting (i.e. 'cancel culture', not that I agree with the politics of those who use that term). If a celebrity does something that is frowned upon by the general public, the general public may not spend money on that celebrity's works in the future. Hence their employer disciplining them/ firing them, or their ability to get future employment being affected.

Yes, this form of 'punishment' can only occur in this way in a capitalistic system - in another economic system, presumably a public figure may only experience loss of face/status and/or ostracism. Depending on what system this occurred in, this would have different effects: an ideal communist society, they would still be supported to live but would still suffer mental/emotional ramifucations; in a traditional society, social ostracism from the rest of the clan could result in death through exclusion from meals/shelter.

Yes, if the public is being manipulated by the entertainment industry itself to judge some figures and not others, that is not good. But manipulation of public perception is not inherent to capitalism.

Basically I'm trying to say that this isn't a 'capitalism bad' issue, it's more a 'the public is susceptible to manipulation' issue. Which, in this case, is up for debate - even if there are other idols that may be 'behaving badly', if the behaviour of one becomes known, that doesn't mean it's unreasonable for them to face the court of public opinion.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-07 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
OP - couldn't have put it better myself in regards to, it's the public's fault not necessarily capitalism's even. But the public is just so dumb if they can't see the capitalistic reasons behind such gossip really.