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⌈ Secret Post #5812 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Inspired by #1 - What is your most controversial ship?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Like I said. I lurked in some of the big, well known HP fandom watering holes. I wouldn't be surprised if what I'm saying you've heard before, from people who were more active and made their own spaces. But I didn't see any of that, back then. I just saw fans reacting vehemently against Harry/Hermione, and gloating because JK agreed with them in interviews that Hermione/Ron was absolutely going to be canon and so on. I paid little attention to it, then, because I wasn't very fond of the main characters. (Or straight, for that matter.)

But people trying to claim that the juggernaut ships they like are uniquely "healthy" has never sat right with me. So, when I see fans saying they shipped Harry/Hermione and putting it in these terms, many years later - as if shipping something on the losing side of a bitter ship war were something to feel guilty about - I feel like offering any comfort I've got.

Also, I think any fan has a right to openly dislike any character, so your claiming the ship war can mostly be blamed on people saying things like I said about Ron seems pretty weird to me.

Re: Inspired by #1 - What is your most controversial ship?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I also was in the HP fandom in is heyday (ie before the final books were published). And I remember the H/Hr fans being just as batshit and annoying as they R/Hr fans. You don't remember H/Hr fans going on about how H/Hr was the "smart" "literary" interpretation of the characters and that literary genius (lol) JKR would validate them and their superior taste by canonising the ship? You don't remember H/Hr fans gloating when JKR said in an interview years after the books were published that she preferred H/Hr? You don't remember the rampant Ron bashing?

Like, just because one of the ships became canon doesn't make H/Hr the underdog. They were both as big and as stupid parts of fandom as each other.

No one is saying H/Hr is 'unhealthy'. Just that it's controversial (because of said ship wars). And you're totally allowed to dislike Ron. But it's unnecessary to bash him to support H/Hr - unless your aim is to just reprosecute the Hermione wars in 2022. Which is a choice.

Re: Inspired by #1 - What is your most controversial ship?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I don't remember that, because I never came across it. I wasn't a Hermione/Anyone shipper, and when I had a little time to read HP forum content, I went straight for what people had thought of key scenes in the book, or character analyses for the characters I enjoyed and wanted to understand better.

Part of what I'm realizing in retrospect (because we're talking ... I don't think this is something I'd have questioned on my own) is that being on what I thought of back then as just a very active, thriving internet community mostly involved one, sometimes two large sites, whose mods were open supporters of Ron/Hermione. I wasn't there for the ship, but by not rejecting the moderator's biases and going looking until I found some other place that didn't censor what the Sugarquill mods termed "Weasley-bashing," I guess I inadvertently exposed myself to a lot of Ron/Hermione in passing, and it was obnoxious to me.

The Harry/Hermione shippers I've encountered since still seem hurt by what other fans said to them and about them during that ship war. I'm taking into account what you said, or trying, but I don't think they're equally at fault, because I've never seen anyone admit to having shipped Ron/Hermione with the concern that strangers are going to come attack them because of it. And I see that over and over with Harry/Hermione fans.

I don't think there's such a thing as "more moral" or "less moral" ships, and detest when people come up with convoluted, petty reasons for looking down on each other. What I meant to say was that R/Hr looks at least as vulnerable to criticism to me as the ships I watched lots of people point at and denigrate, but I'm sorry that what I actually said was disrespectful.