[ SECRET POST #5827 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5827 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

See, I just can't get past the "but where is the baby supposed to GROW?" part. It's not like there's any room in there for something like that...

[(Anonymous)]

Sure there is! The uterus is a tightly folded up muscle, not an empty sac with space in it. Attach a uterus to the bowel instead. (You do need a uterus though, otherwise you have ectopic pregnancies which are not always in the fallopian tubes and can burst other organs, which is why they're close to 100% fatal if not stopped in time).

Anyway, cloaca.

[(Anonymous)]

I meant "room" as in room in the existing organs that are in there. If you have to magically add another organ to make it possible then that just hits the "too weird for me" reading on the scale. I can't suspend my disbelief THAT much.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, women have exactly the same organs as men, and they don't have problems making room, they just get indigestion. But fair enough that "another organ" is a pass for you.

[(Anonymous)]

+10000

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, this! I mean, I Am Not A Doctor, and I'm not saying that this explanation is totally, scientifically rock solid (very little in fiction is rock solid honestly). But the general presumption I make when reading mpreg (unless it's otherwise specified) is that there is a spot along the wall of the anus that essentially functions somewhat like a cervix; it's a passage that leads to a uterus, and that remains shut until the dude is in labor. (Also, if one is into breeding kink, one can write that said spot also opens during the dude's heat for maximum feralization potential.)

I prefer this sort of cloaca-lite explanation over just straight up giving the dude a cloaca, for one because as someone who tends to be a smidge squicked by furry/animal stuff, the idea of, like, "He plowed into his mate's hot, tight cloaca," is a tiny bit too animal for my preference (though I wouldn't call it a hard pass by any means), and also I just don't love the idea of the pee hole and the poop hole being the same (which I realize is borderline hypocritical since I'm the one arguing that it doesn't matter if the poop hole and the baby hole are the same, but it's just how I personally feel, not necessarily a stance based in iron clad rationality).

Plus, with a cloaca, I have all these questions suddenly, like, is the partner's dick fucking through the cloaca into the anus? Or is the main body of the cloaca basically functioning, deeper in, as a vagina and getting the majority of the fucking? Is it difficult for the penetrating partner not to hit the opening to the anus or the urethra by accident? Like how good does his(/her) aim have to be? And like, I don't hate these questions. You could actually do some hot, weird, kinky shit with this idea and I'd probably be here for it. But for me personally, "passage deep in the anus that leads to the uterus," is just simpler, and I am already very primed to view the anus as a sexytimes zone, whereas for me if the word "cloaca" showed up in a fic it would take some coaxing to get me past the, "Wait, like birds and reptiles have??" response and back into the sexytimes headspace.

But that's just me and I'm not actually arguing with you at all. I wholly support your comment, and I also support the validity of using "cloaca" as an explanation for how this shit works in mpreg-supporting universes.

I also don't know much about cloacas beyond what a few diagrams have taught me, so there's that. lol.

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[(Anonymous)]

"Cloaca-lite" is a good description! There's honestly a whole lot of other endocrine issues etc. that would have to be dealt with for pregnancy, but people don't tend to get stuck on those.

In marsupials (and a few other animals) other than monotremes, there's one external opening and then inside there's separate passages to the vagina, anus and urethra. So you would fuck the pouch area, not specifically into one passage - and some marsupials have two or four-headed penises.

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[(Anonymous)]

Quick drive-by point out that in most (not all) bird species, there is no penis at all, so mating happens cloaca-to-cloaca. Just leaving that here, carry on. :)

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[tabaqui]

Interesting. I wrote my one and only A/B/O fic and basically did this, but without really having the slightest bit of knowledge about a cloaca. (I'd heard the term but never had any real desire to investigate).

It just made more sense to me than a fetus somehow in the colon? or intestinal tract? or whatever?

(There was no mpreg in my fic - the character opted for hysterectomy early on and it was never desired or considered.)

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[(Anonymous)]

It just made more sense to me than a fetus somehow in the colon? or intestinal tract? or whatever?

Above anon and yeah, see, that's my exact problem with mpreg, IDK why everyone in this thread is having so much difficulty understanding that. You can't just have a fetus growing in the stomach or the intestinal tract because there's no space in those organs for that, they're not meant for that purpose.

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[tabaqui]

Exactly.
There's space in the male body for a uterus, ESPECIALLY if we're talking about humans that actually are supposed to come with that feature, but in already-existing organs? Hell no.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes! If we were talking about some future society or other world where men had evolved to have an organ like that, that would be one thing, I could totally buy it. But I just can't when there's no explanation like that for how all of this is supposed to work.