[ SECRET POST #5838 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5838 ⌋

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[meadowphoenix]

not historically it doesn't. radicalization of any sort just furthers in-group/out-group thinking even when the in-group is large (or seems large).

[feotakahari]

This made me realize that when I think of what “radicalization” means, I think of lack of sympathy. That is to say, if you’re being told not to have sympathy for someone, I interpret that as being “radicalized” against that person.

[(Anonymous)]

That’s not really what radicalization is though. At least, not exactly. It’s not untrue being told someone or some group is not deserving of sympathy is part of the radicalization process. But that’s not all it is. And people not having sympathy for school shooters isn’t really the same as a group like Nazis not having sympathy for any group they deem inferior. Or a school shooter themselves having no sympathy for the people they intend to kill, or have killed. Intent to do harm is a part of it also. Because although people may be “told” to not sympathize with school shooter types by society, that lack of sympathy may happen without being told. And isn’t likely to lead to violence against the school shooter type. Although it’s not impossible for violence to happen against them regardless of if they have or would actually gone through with anything. But it’s not something encouraged most of the time. But a group that a school shooter might find themselves joining or aligning with, they usually have a specific group that they want to deny any sympathy towards. Sometimes for prejudiced reasons. And violence against those people is much more likely and encouraged. I consider that radicalization but not the people who don’t have sympathy for the school shooter type. I say type because the story would seem a bit more black and white if I was talking about actual confirmed shooters. It may not actually be black and white behind the scenes though. At least as far as motives go. Sometimes it isn’t because of radicalization just bullying or abuse of some kind. That’s not a justification, just a different story than someone radicalized into wanting to commit a school shooting. And not everyone profiled as a school shooter type would ever actually go through with a shooting. Some may not even want to and are just being stereotyped. It’s all pretty complicated. I used school shooter types specifically because those were what was being discussed by others more or less. Not just something as vague as being told not to have sympathy for someone. I just really don’t think it’s automatically being radicalized against someone just because you’re told not to have sympathy for them. That discounts situations where someone is a convicted murderer. Sure they may have had something in their past worth feeling sympathy for at some point. But it can be considered insulting to their victims to focus on sympathizing with them. You can still do it. It doesn’t automatically make someone a bad person to do so. But it accomplishes nothing. And you’re not being radicalized if you don’t feel sympathy for them.

Apologies for my grammar. I’m ESL.

[meadowphoenix]

Radicalization is merely drawing people, for good or ill, with tactics reasonable or manipulative, into adherence to a shared set of beliefs.

You can radicalize people against the prison industrial complex, for instance, which doesn't require a lack of sympathy, and may require more empathy than is usually called upon.

But the type of radicalization that incites stochastic violence usually does involve dehumanization.

Not for nothing however, we intuitively remove social support from people who are more willing to harm our community. That's not radicalization, that's just a protection mechanism on behalf of potential victims.