[ SECRET POST #5840 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5840 ⌋

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[Whose Line is it, Anyway?]


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[Pic is from Fullmetal Alchemist]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, you're not wrong. any religion that encourages questioning comes with the caveat that questioning is supposed to affirm that faith, not cause one to leave, so literally any religion is going to get mad when you see through the veil and nope out.

the frustration I see here is that atheists by nature are just not allowed to have anything. from having our lack of belief called its own belief system to having anyone representing us claimed as someone/something else. we just can't win.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheism itself isn't a belief system, but there is a specific type of atheist that turns their atheism into a belief system. And going by your entire comment ("we're not allowed to have anything!") you kinda sound like one.

[(Anonymous)]

DA and nah, they're fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, so you haven't met many insufferable atheists. I envy you.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I've met plenty of insufferable atheists, but they were insufferable because they were assholes, not because they were atheists. They would have been the same as christians, or jews, or muslims, or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

Then you haven't really met any. Insufferable atheists are insufferable in a way that's very specifically about their atheism. Atheists who are insufferable because of other personality traits that can belong to anyone exist too, but those aren't who I meant when I said insufferable atheists.

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AYRT

Oh, they can be insufferable about their atheism, but they're not insufferable BECAUSE of their atheism. They would have been the same insufferable christians or muslims or whatever, because they're insufferable people. What they're insufferable about doesn't actually matter.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't go on reddit, do you

[(Anonymous)]

I think the people you’re talking about are most likely antitheists. It’s super common in America that anthitheists call themselves atheists. I’m not sure they’re aware of the difference tbh. IRL they tend to be insufferable and give actual atheists a bad rep.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, IME people who are religious tend to get really odd about the idea that some people just don't believe in anything like that. It's like they can't comprehend that people can exist without believing in some sort of higher power and NGL it's really kind of weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Meanwhile I don't understand why atheists don't get that "I don't believe in anything" is still considered a belief system. The lack of belief is still... A belief. "I believe there is nothing there" is a thing. You're not special or a snowflake.

[(Anonymous)]

No... There's a difference between not having a belief and ACTIVELY not believing. If I've never even heard of your god, I don't ACTIVELY not believe, I just don't have a belief because I don't even have the concept.

It's like a child not even knowing about Santa, then are told about Santa, then says that it's stupid and that they don't believe in Santa. They now have something they actively don't believe in.

[(Anonymous)]

You're objectively wrong from an academic standpoint. Anthropology and religious studies teaches that atheism is not a belief system. If not believing in something were a belief system, then everything we've ever heard of in our lives and said or passingly known "that's not real" about would be its own belief system. Most people have heard of unicorns and most people know they don't exist. But we don't call not believing in unicorns a belief system. Knowing the characters in my favorite book aren't real isn't a belief system.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention the fact that most of the atheists I know don't actually DISbelieve in the existence of gods so much as they don't believe in it because there's no proof. Like, I'm an atheist, but that's mainly because no one has ever been able to show me any sort of convincing evidence that a god/gods exist. If you came to me tomorrow with concrete proof that there really is a god, I'd be happy to change my mind. It's the same with ghosts and the supernatural. I don't believe in them, but if someone presented proof that they're real, then I would start believing.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheism isn't a belief system. It is one belief (maybe). Granted, everyone HAS a belief system, because belief systems are what we act on. But there's nothing entailed by atheism. There's no action that it spurs. It can be PART of a belief system, but it's not a sufficient condition in and of itself.