[ SECRET POST #5840 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5840 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Whose Line is it, Anyway?]


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[Pic is from Fullmetal Alchemist]


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Comments

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05. https://i.imgur.com/02GZuVz.png
[Pic is from Fullmetal Alchemist]

[(Anonymous)]

*runs, not walks, away from secret*

[(Anonymous)]

So far, so good. We’ll see if that changes.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, you're not wrong. any religion that encourages questioning comes with the caveat that questioning is supposed to affirm that faith, not cause one to leave, so literally any religion is going to get mad when you see through the veil and nope out.

the frustration I see here is that atheists by nature are just not allowed to have anything. from having our lack of belief called its own belief system to having anyone representing us claimed as someone/something else. we just can't win.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheism itself isn't a belief system, but there is a specific type of atheist that turns their atheism into a belief system. And going by your entire comment ("we're not allowed to have anything!") you kinda sound like one.

[(Anonymous)]

DA and nah, they're fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, so you haven't met many insufferable atheists. I envy you.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't go on reddit, do you

[(Anonymous)]

I think the people you’re talking about are most likely antitheists. It’s super common in America that anthitheists call themselves atheists. I’m not sure they’re aware of the difference tbh. IRL they tend to be insufferable and give actual atheists a bad rep.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, IME people who are religious tend to get really odd about the idea that some people just don't believe in anything like that. It's like they can't comprehend that people can exist without believing in some sort of higher power and NGL it's really kind of weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Meanwhile I don't understand why atheists don't get that "I don't believe in anything" is still considered a belief system. The lack of belief is still... A belief. "I believe there is nothing there" is a thing. You're not special or a snowflake.

[(Anonymous)]

No... There's a difference between not having a belief and ACTIVELY not believing. If I've never even heard of your god, I don't ACTIVELY not believe, I just don't have a belief because I don't even have the concept.

It's like a child not even knowing about Santa, then are told about Santa, then says that it's stupid and that they don't believe in Santa. They now have something they actively don't believe in.

[(Anonymous)]

You're objectively wrong from an academic standpoint. Anthropology and religious studies teaches that atheism is not a belief system. If not believing in something were a belief system, then everything we've ever heard of in our lives and said or passingly known "that's not real" about would be its own belief system. Most people have heard of unicorns and most people know they don't exist. But we don't call not believing in unicorns a belief system. Knowing the characters in my favorite book aren't real isn't a belief system.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheism isn't a belief system. It is one belief (maybe). Granted, everyone HAS a belief system, because belief systems are what we act on. But there's nothing entailed by atheism. There's no action that it spurs. It can be PART of a belief system, but it's not a sufficient condition in and of itself.

[(Anonymous)]

Same with Muslim-headcanons, really. I'd say same for Christian headcanons but those are mostly met with derision anyways so meh.

[(Anonymous)]

I am just not interested in religious head canons in general. I am not the target audience, and that's okay. (It might help to repeat that last part to yourself a few times, OP.)

[(Anonymous)]

Have you considered, not being Jewish yourself, that those Jewish people may be projecting their own experiences on the characters? Jewish atheists are really, really common.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, when Jewish fans say characters are Jewish they might just mean culturally, not religiously. They could be saying the character seems like they come from a Jewish background (or something analogous if it's not set in the real world).

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly (or not), Jewish culture is heavily religious. And because of it people often think jewish=Judaism

(I am partly Jewish, but I come from mixed atheist background, so mostly the only Jewish thing about me is gene-pool). But I believe different people have different experiences. And there are a lot of atheist from Jewish cultural background.
FMA isn't the bad choice, it's interesting to read Elrics like this.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Ed's not an atheist anymore by the end of Brotherhood.

[(Anonymous)]

non-jewish atheist doesn't understand that these two words are not mutually exclusive, more at 11!

[(Anonymous)]

As a Jew, I get offended that people constantly forget that Judaism is both a religion and AN ETHNICITY.

It's like telling a black person they aren't black if they don't identify as being black. Sure, you're "lemur-American" on the inside, but that's not washing your skin color off on the outside.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like there were better options you could have taken when discussing a hypothetical black person's feelings about their skin colour than to compare them to a monkey...

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

The “washing the color off” thing is also a dogwhistle. So, you know. Racism.